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What do I do.....

My son who is 17 in July left school last May, went to a training place got kicked off as he wasnt turning in etc etc, so we said he has to get a job, he didnt and instead is re-taking his english and maths two mornings a week.

When he isnt doing his studies he isnt getting out of bed till after 12 everyday, comes downstairs sits on the pc, eats goes upstairs, showers and then maybe goes out for the rest of the night.

Now, my husband gets in from work sees that my son is doing nothing and sometimes is still in his dressing gown, and they have had words, (my son is not my partners lad, but has been there since he was 4) they are not talking and the atmosphere is starting to get to me.

I saw my husband today and he has said something has to be done, otherwise ultimations will start, basically get a job or get out, (son has other places to go) but if my OH said that I would probably stick up for my son.

So, I spoke to my son today and told him as he does nothing around the house, from Monday he has to do his own washing and ironing, his response was you have been talking to that !!!! havent you! So obviously I told him off for calling him names, and told him that no I hadnt and that me and him (my son ) were going to town on tuesday to sign up to some agencies to do some temping work.

I dont know I am just so pi**sed off with my OH and son that sometimes I feel like saying Fu*k the lot of ya I'm off!

How do you think I should treat the situation, or what should I do?

Thanks sorry for going on.

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Ok, the other day my son bought a fathers day card for his real dad and left it downstairs, my OH noticed that there was only one card in the bag, so my OH said to me dont mention anything to my son about getting me anything for fathers day as I want to see what he does, so I said OK!

So, heres where it all went wrong.

Saturday I decide to make some bacon sandwiches, I ask OH to cut the bread, he only cuts enough slices for me and himself, so I said have you asked my son, he gave me a look as if to say NO, why should I??

So, I go and ask him if he would like a bacon sarnie to eat, he says Yes!

I go back in the kitchen and tell OH he wants one, he gives me another funny look and I say whats with the look, am I suppose to just cook and not offer him anything? He says yes, hes old enough to cook for himself, I say yes he is but if I am already cooking something then normal people would ask if somebody else would like some?? Anyway it got into a bit of a slanging match saying I always take his side, in the end I told my OH to F**K off, he stood there and said you know what really gets to me, is how easy it is for you to say F**K off to me, with that he got his keys and wallet and left.

This morning he comes home at 10am, saying that he still doesnt think he was wrong about not offering the food? He says he has been too soft since the day he met me, and that his opinion in this house means nothing and that I always have the end decision.

Then I tell him that obviously my son was going to make amends because I found another fathers day card and present for my OH, but that didnt seem to make a difference. I then said that you and him need to resolve this and my OH said its never going to be resolved.

With that he went off with my younger son to play rugby, so we will be having a chat this afternoon.

Now, what if he was to give my an ultimation him or my oldest son??
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  • Have you got a spare room ?- I think I could cope with 2 mornings a week !
    If he were my son I would give him a simple choice - either get some part time work and start paying into the household or take on some household responsibilities. If he is becoming an adult he surely can't expect to lay around all the time while others work to keep him. 2 lessons a week is a poor excuse for doing nothing the rest of the time. Just my opinion - good luck.
    Ste4mhammer
  • Smashing
    Smashing Posts: 1,799 Forumite
    Michaela wrote: »
    I saw my husband today and he has said something has to be done, otherwise ultimations will start, basically get a job or get out, (son has other places to go) but if my OH said that I would probably stick up for my son.

    And say what? That it is ok for him to be a layabout?
    Where is he getting his money for going out?
    Where is his incentive to get a job?

    To be honest, if I was working all day to support a family and came home to find my perfectly capable 17 year old laying about in their dressing gown, I'd be pretty peeved off too.
  • Smashing wrote: »
    And say what? That it is ok for him to be a layabout?
    Where is he getting his money for going out?
    Where is his incentive to get a job?

    To be honest, if I was working all day to support a family and came home to find my perfectly capable 17 year old laying about in their dressing gown, I'd be pretty peeved off too.

    No, I know its not ok for him to be a layabout, and it does do my head in, my OH says I am too soft.

    He gets his money off his real dad as sometimes he does work for him he worked last weekend friday and saturday night and sunday day and got £120, but its not a regular thing just every now and then.

    He has no incentive to get a job, he doesnt know what to do? I think he is scared, no confidence.

    Sometimes I feel almost scared at telling my son to do things for he gets all moody and stroppy and then puts me in a fowl mood so I just let him get on with things and its been like this for a long time, I am to blame as I have allowed it to go on and my son knows he can take the !!!! as he obviously has been for some time now.

    Pathetic really, as I am suppose to be the adult/parent.

    Well I have told him about doing his own washing and ironing as of Monday, I have told him about going to town and signing up for temping work until he finishes his p/t course. Now he is stropping around the house.
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  • melancholly
    melancholly Posts: 7,457 Forumite
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    you should be able to put parental controls on the internet access so that he simply cannot access it while you're out at work - might help a bit. or just put a password on the computer so that he can't use it whenever he wants.

    i think he has 2 options - he can either start paying rent and then he can 'treat the house like it's a hotel' (my parents love that line!) or he can pull his weight and not be a slob as you are supporting him while he studies.

    it's probably also a very good idea that you and your partner show a united front - kids are experts at the divide and conquer approach!! it may be best to avoid any confrontations unless you are both there, and that way your son can't do a 'he said, she said' kind of thing.

    at 17 your son should be more than capable of signing up to temp agencies without you.... the more you do for him, the more he will rely on it and not bother doing things for himself!
    :happyhear
  • snowmaid
    snowmaid Posts: 3,494 Forumite
    You have my sympathies. Teenagers are really horrible! You will have to take a hard stand. Firstly bad language is NOT acceptable and shows disrespect towards you. He MUST get a job, either McDonalds or some other place if not a full time one. Certainly DO NOT do his washing or clean his room. My children have done their own washing and ironing since 15. If they don't have clean items, TOUGH! I work a full day and there is noone to clean up after their @rses!

    My son was going through a 'lazy' period, however, he has snapped out of it some and is being a lot more helpful around the house, that is without me having to moan at him! :rolleyes: Thank goodness I belong to a Church where the boys can go on mission for 2 years. He is going! :T He will learn to fend for himself, will HAVE to exercise better time management, learn to be more responsible and basically grown up and be a man, at the same time growing spiritually of course. He isn't a bad boy in fact compared to others he is fantastic, but he really needs to learn to stop time wasting.

    Be tough! Take no nonsense. Your husband is quite correct about your son. I can understand you trying to compensate for your son's father not being there, but I also know that being soft doesn't help them. Good luck!
  • Smashing
    Smashing Posts: 1,799 Forumite
    Michaela wrote: »
    Now he is stropping around the house.

    And you thought you were finished with tantrums. ;)

    It IS easier to stick with the status quo, but you have to keep telling yourself that you are not being unreasonable to ask your son to contribute to the household. It is in his best interests to learn that the world doesn't owe him a living and no one gets a free ride in life

    Worst comes to the worst, threaten to take him on Jeremy Kyle and send him on the boot camp with that patronsing Graham bloke. :D
  • poe.tuesday
    poe.tuesday Posts: 1,858 Forumite
    you say he's been out of school since May, I take it you mean May 06? if this is the case then you son has had enough time to 'chill out' after school but he is probably now in a rut with having a year to do nothing as such, he has no routeen, he has no drive and he has no reason to do anything, you do everything for him, he gets money every now and again from his dad, what a wonderful life really

    You as the parent are now stuck in a hard place between keeping your son and OH happy. I can well understand why your OH is annoyed at you but he also can say something to him and make him see how he feels

    as for getting your son motovatied, this can be hard, he sounds like your son is a typical angst teenager who thinks the world is against him and doesn't understand why he just can't do what he wants to do, you need to try to get him to see what his actions have on the rest of the family but this needs to be done in a calm way, screaming and shouting only builds walls and he will be stomping around the house even more

    I think you need to plant some ideas in his head, why don't you tell him to go travelling or to get a job abroad, maybe working as a rep or trying to get a job on a private yatch, this will really be the making of him as it will force him to work and he will see the benifits of working, he will aslo grow up a lot, you need to get him out of the rut that he is in but taking him to agencies to work in some horrible warehouse for example will just make him see that there is no point, he needs to want to get up and out of bed, perhaps you should speak to his dad and see if you can get some money off him so he can go to austrailia, a couple of grand would do this, he will have to get a job out there to survive - it will be the making of him, I know so many guys who were exactly like your son, travelling was the best thing they ever did and gave them a good grounding for life as an adult

    good luck
  • When I was at college (then 17) I worked 4 evenings a week in a factory - it left the daytimes free and still gave me opportunities to socialise. It wasn't the greatest job in the world but it gave me some money and some independence which gave me the confidence to do other things. I am not saying that your role is easy but I too needed a push in the right direction to get me started. It will take some courage to walk into places and ask for part time work but I would suggest that reasoning with him and telling him that this is what grown ups do is a good place to start - he will have the hump for a while - it will come as a shock to him but he can't stay on a 1 wheel moped to nowhere city forever!
    Ste4mhammer
  • snowmaid
    snowmaid Posts: 3,494 Forumite
    When I was at college (then 17) I worked 4 evenings a week in a factory - it left the daytimes free and still gave me opportunities to socialise. It wasn't the greatest job in the world but it gave me some money and some independence which gave me the confidence to do other things. I am not saying that your role is easy but I too needed a push in the right direction to get me started. It will take some courage to walk into places and ask for part time work but I would suggest that reasoning with him and telling him that this is what grown ups do is a good place to start - he will have the hump for a while - it will come as a shock to him but he can't stay on a 1 wheel moped to nowhere city forever!

    My son is working at McDonalds, there I can't complain. He has travelled to Australia twice - all paid for out of his own money. He is finishing his BTech at the end of this month and then going on mission. He just needs to exercise better time management and be more helpful without me having to shout at him first! :rolleyes:

    I think moms should encourage paper rounds from when they are allowed to hold a round. My nephew who is 14 has also done paper rounds and is now doing a school walk with kids from an aftercare centre in the mornings and evenings. He has learnt to enjoy working for his own money and likes the independence it gives him.
  • DKLS
    DKLS Posts: 13,461 Forumite
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    I was similar to your son, stuck in a rut, not sure what to do after A levels, and left for the Kibbutz for a year, I grew up big time out there, as I finally realised that If I didnt pull my weight, and work, I wouldnt eat or have somewhere to sleep, I had a great time, learnt loads from the other "vollies" and had many memorable experiences, Including sat on a bomb shelter drinking beer watching the scuds fly over into Tel Aviv! a bit like a dangerous firework show!, although its very safe now. Its a very cheap way of getting some travelling done, easy to get to greece or egypt. Might be worth a suggestion to the lad. Tell him about the girls and I am sure he will be out there like a shot.
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