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Hugh's Chicken Run (Merged Discussion)
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But HFW has been a consistent long term campaigner for higher farm animal welfare and campaigning for people to eat higher welfare meat and poultry - more than half of his 'Meat' book published a couple of years ago is devoted to information on the subject - only around half the book is recipes. I think it's highly unlikely the whole Chicken run tv program was made for the one off opportunity to shift some extra chickens!"The happiest of people don't necessarily have the
best of everything; they just make the best
of everything that comes along their way."
-- Author Unknown --0 -
HFW doesn't sell his own chickens in his shop (or anywhere else AFAIK) but a local Dorset free-range farmer's chicken, along with other meat, fruit, veg, bread, local brews etc etc. so I don't think he was promoting his own stuff. It's also a pretty small shop, with, unfortunately, pretty high prices!
I was already converted to free-range long before this programme aired, but think this campaign is long overdue. I hope it makes a difference.0 -
competitionscafe wrote: »But HFW has been a consistent long term campaigner for higher farm animal welfare and campaigning for people to eat higher welfare meat and poultry - more than half of his 'Meat' book published a couple of years ago is devoted to information on the subject - only around half the book is recipes. I think it's highly unlikely the whole Chicken run tv program was made for the one off opportunity to shift some extra chickens!
Me too, I think it was done to launch his own brand which will continue to sell free range chickens.
It doesn't matter whether people agree with the program or not, the fact is he will sell the chickens used in the program as soon as they are ready. And I think they won't be the last chickens he sells.0 -
lifebegins wrote: »HFW doesn't sell his own chickens in his shop (or anywhere else AFAIK) but a local Dorset free-range farmer's chicken, along with other meat, fruit, veg, bread, local brews etc etc. so I don't think he was promoting his own stuff. It's also a pretty small shop, with, unfortunately, pretty high prices!
You missed the point. He has a shop selling chickens he buys from another supplier. Then makes a TV program where he buys thousands of chickens to rear.
What do you think he is going to do with the chickens once they are big enough to eat?
He isn't going to come back next year and say "Hey, remember all those chickens I bought last year? Well I still have them and they make great pets."0 -
I might be wrong but didn't he already kill some of the free rangers and give them to local businesses to use in food production (take-aways etc) in the final programme? Which chickens were they eating at the end of the programme at the street party?
I've a feeling the programme was filmed last summer and those chickens were ready to slaughter by the end of the show, so unless he's carried on producing them since then he won't have any stock to sell in the current high demand surely?
BTW, a free ranger will take a lot longer than 45 days to produce, that's about the time for an intensively farmed chicken. I can't remember the exact length of time and think it varies amongst different breeds. Need more coffee to wake my brain up
“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”0 -
My local butcher is organic and very good it is too. He says that the market is going crazy - he knew there would bigger than normal demand but couldn't get his hands on any.
That's because the chicken farmers don't rear more than they can sell. Once a chicken is ready to eat, every extra day you keep it costs you money.
HFW has created a greater demand for free range chickens, especially in Axminster. One of his businesses is selling meat and he just happens to have thousands of chickens.0 -
geordie_joe wrote: »That's because the chicken farmers don't rear more than they can sell. Once a chicken is ready to eat, every extra day you keep it costs you money.
HFW has created a greater demand for free range chickens, especially in Axminster. One of his businesses is selling meat and he just happens to have thousands of chickens.
But does he? As I said in the other thread I'm fairly certain (without looking up the facts) that all those chickens would have been slaughtered last year when it was filmed, so unless he's continued to produce free rangers on a large scale he won't have any either. And in any case, he only raised 1400 free range chickens, the other 2600 were intensively reared.“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”0 -
geordie_joe wrote: »So you believe two wrongs make a right? I criticised your critisism of someone you do know.
but didnt you just say..geordie_joe wrote: »
How can you criticise someone when you know nothing about them!
Make up your mind, how do you feel you can make a valid point when the first thing you type is a contradiction to what you said earlier??
And just because the chickens in your local butchers are frozen does that mean they are not free range? have you actually bothered asking?Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently!0 -
~Chameleon~ wrote: »I might be wrong but didn't he already kill some of the free rangers and give them to local businesses to use in food production (take-aways etc) in the final programme? Which chickens were they eating at the end of the programme at the street party?
I don't know.~Chameleon~ wrote: »I've a feeling the programme was filmed last summer and those chickens were ready to slaughter by the end of the show, so unless he's carried on producing them since then he won't have any stock to sell in the current high demand surely?
Maybe, but he is still a business man who sells products to the public and supplies them to other retailers. These products are "farm produced", "Organic" "free range" type products.
He has just set up a chicken farm and created a lot of demand for those chickens. Do you really think he is now going to stop and say "that was an interesting project" or is he going to carry on breeding and selling chickens.~Chameleon~ wrote: »BTW, a free ranger will take a lot longer than 45 days to produce, that's about the time for an intensively farmed chicken. I can't remember the exact length of time and think it varies amongst different breeds. Need more coffee to wake my brain up
I'm pretty sure he said intensive chickens take 39 day and free range ones take 45. But I may have mis-heard.0 -
geordie_joe wrote: »I
I'm pretty sure he said intensive chickens take 39 day and free range ones take 45. But I may have mis-heard.
A free ranger takes twice as long to raise as the intensively farmed one so I'd say more in the region of 80-90 days, about 12 weeks, which sounds about right.“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”0
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