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Ok it's just a moan, but really... school holidays

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  • sinderella_2
    sinderella_2 Posts: 672 Forumite
    Hello folk

    Just wanted to add for the record that a family wedding is usually considered valid as an excuse for term time holiday - especially if your little darlings are bridesmaids/pageboys;)
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  • scaldyflash
    scaldyflash Posts: 934 Forumite
    Ah, the joys of home education ! We as a family love when the farmed children go back to school because we have the run of all the swimming pools, museums, etc etc, in fact it's the period when farmed children are released that my children are happier to stay near home. :D
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  • loftus
    loftus Posts: 578 Forumite
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    Ah, the joys of home education ! We as a family love when the farmed children go back to school because we have the run of all the swimming pools, museums, etc etc,

    "Farmed children", what a lovely expression - NOT. You have made a choice on how to educate your children, others make their own choices.
    in fact it's the period when farmed children are released that my children are happier to stay near home. :D

    Doesn't say a lot for the way your choice of education is giving your kids the skills to interact with the wider community. Do they hide for 6 weeks in summer?
    No reliance should be placed on the above.
  • scaldyflash
    scaldyflash Posts: 934 Forumite
    loftus wrote: »
    "Farmed children", what a lovely expression - NOT. You have made a choice on how to educate your children, others make their own choices.



    Doesn't say a lot for the way your choice of education is giving your kids the skills to interact with the wider community. Do they hide for 6 weeks in summer?

    Yes we do tend to keep a low profile whilst the farmed children are on the loose, everything is more expensive and crowded so we just do things locally with our small home ed groups or as a family, it's around the first week in September when we come out of hibernation to enjoy the space and cheaper holidays, attractions etc.

    Of course we made a choice how to educate our children and we are happy with that choice as I'm sure are most people with the choices they made.

    You might not like the phrase 'farmed' however it is a legitimate phrase taken from the english dictionary (Phrasal Verb(s):
    farm out
    1. To send (work, for example) from a central point to be done elsewhere.
    It is not intended to be derogatory merely descriptive !
    Education is compulsory, school is not.
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  • galvanizersbaby
    galvanizersbaby Posts: 4,676 Forumite
    Ah, the joys of home education ! We as a family love when the farmed children go back to school because we have the run of all the swimming pools, museums, etc etc, in fact it's the period when farmed children are released that my children are happier to stay near home. :D
    I too find your expression 'farmed children' rather offensive scaldyflash.
    Especially the reference to 'farmed children on the loose' - you make them sound like some sort of ferral children.
    I am sure you are not meaning to sound derogatory but that's how it sounds to me.
    I am sure your children are no better than the 'farmed kids'
  • scaldyflash
    scaldyflash Posts: 934 Forumite
    I too find your expression 'farmed children' rather offensive scaldyflash.
    Especially the reference to 'farmed children on the loose' - you make them sound like some sort of ferral children.
    I am sure you are not meaning to sound derogatory but that's how it sounds to me.
    I am sure your children are no better than the 'farmed kids'

    My children are the best children in the whole world. A view which I'm sure virtually all parents do (or at least should) hold.

    I have no problem with farmed children, I was one myself, I just don't like the periods when they are released because everything is more expensive and crowded.

    Like I said the term farmed is a legitimate one (see above) All it does is describes work i.e. a child's education being outsourced.
    Education is compulsory, school is not.
    Education Otherwise
  • loftus
    loftus Posts: 578 Forumite
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    I'm sorry, legitimate or otherwise, I don't believe that you aren't using the phrase "farmed children" in a derogatory way, particularly when you also use the term "released" to describe the school holidays.
    I'm sure you are doing the best for your children and they are thriving being home schooled. I don't see the need for you to use such expressions about the vast majority of children who are being educated in the school system.
    No reliance should be placed on the above.
  • scaldyflash
    scaldyflash Posts: 934 Forumite
    loftus wrote: »
    I'm sorry, legitimate or otherwise, I don't believe that you aren't using the phrase "farmed children" in a derogatory way, particularly when you also use the term "released" to describe the school holidays.
    I'm sure you are doing the best for your children and they are thriving being home schooled. I don't see the need for you to use such expressions about the vast majority of children who are being educated in the school system.

    I use the term farmed to describe the outsourcing of work. Yes our children are thriving and enjoying home education as I'm sure most children who are in school are thriving.

    Anyway I didn't mean to hijack the op's post and turn it into another debate on the merits or otherwise of home education it's just that the whole concept of having to ask someone's 'permission' to take my own children on holiday is completely and totally alien to me and it goes against my heartfelt belief that we as parents have (until our children reach maturity) ultimate responsibility and care for what we as a family do, not someone who happens to facilitate the education of other peoples children. All I wanted to say was that with all the anger in the previous posts on this matter that there is an alternative for those who are in a position to choose it. However if I caused offence with the word 'farmed' then I apologise.
    Education is compulsory, school is not.
    Education Otherwise
  • galvanizersbaby
    galvanizersbaby Posts: 4,676 Forumite
    My children are the best children in the whole world. A view which I'm sure virtually all parents do (or at least should) hold.

    I have no problem with farmed children, I was one myself, I just don't like the periods when they are released because everything is more expensive and crowded.

    Like I said the term farmed is a legitimate one (see above) All it does is describes work i.e. a child's education being outsourced.

    Glad to hear you don't have a problem with 'farmed children' as you insist on calling them.
    Everyone has the same problem of the expensive and over crowding in the school holidays (or when they are released as you put it)
    I don't doubt the term 'farmed' is a legitimate term - I just think it sounds offensive in the way you are using it and would hope for their sakes that it is not a term you would encourage your own children to use when referring to children who are educated at school.
  • loftus
    loftus Posts: 578 Forumite
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    I also wasn't meaning to debate home schooling and, as I said (and there was no attempt at irony) I am sure you're children are thriving and you are doing the very best for them. I can understand how you must view these threads when you aren't hampered by the same restrictions and pointing out a valid alternative will be very useful for some.
    Anyway, as you say, enough of the diversion.
    No reliance should be placed on the above.
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