Ok it's just a moan, but really... school holidays

elisamoose

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

Yes, I suspect you are probably right.

Your second point though is why I am not totally against term time holidays (within reason) now that I have two children at school. There is far too much wasted time and a focus on about three key subjects (at Primary level) and the lowest common denominator in absolutely everything! :rolleyes: I mean this generally and not negatively in regards to the two schools my children attend. We support them as much as we can with thanks, money and donated time and are fully aware of the miraculous power and inspiring touch that teachers (can) have. Our eldest's teacher this year in particular has been fantastic.

I'm currently mulling over how to take mine out for a term of authorised absence, for a spot of family travelling GAP year style!!! Oh the fun we would have.

Schools are targeted on their absence rates so 2 kids out for a term is a no no . I would think that your kids will be taken off roll and you will have to re apply when you return . BTW there is no legal requirement to send your child to school! As long as you can prove you are providing some kind of education at home , they will leave you alone to go travelling!

aimee21j

This is what I wanted to say but I get tired after having to type everything one handed Great post Andy.

andyrules

How's the arm?
Look on the bright side, you will have time to become more addicted to mse in the next 2 weeks:D

aimee21j

andyrules wrote: »

How's the arm?
Look on the bright side, you will have time to become more addicted to mse in the next 2 weeks:D

Haha there's not much to do with one arm so the answer is yes! It's getting better thanks- looking forward to going back next week then there's only 2 weeks :j

gregg1

liney wrote: »

Apart from the many news reports stating that Primary teaching is vastly over subscribed, and that unless you want to teach Maths or Science (and greeted with a golden handshake) that a permanent post if very difficult to obtain, there is also this petition http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?2130414 which was very easy to find. If you look at some of the comments you will see how difficult some of these NQT are finding it to secure a post.

There posts generally don't start 'teacher bashing', they start with teachers complaining about their hard lives, and 'people like me' state that they aren't exactly living on the bread line or shoving shXte. The teachers then take offense about my lack of sympathy.

Can i join in the whinging about my job? I have 2 weeks annual leave from tommorrow, accept i will be at work at 8am to sort out a unexpected matter of urgency. I won't be paid for it, i won't be asking for my holiday entitlement back, and i won't be complaining as it's part of the job.....

Good for you - it appears you have all the attributes needed to be a teacher.



Incidentally, You did not specify primary in your original post. Yes, primary is more over-subcribed than secondary but a large proportion of NQT's do not go into primary do they? I am also sure if you searched hard enough you would find articles which highlight the fact that many teachers are leaving the profession. Also, Maths and Science teachers are greeted with a golden handshake for a very good reason - they are in short supply.

And maybe I have not researched properly (feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this) but I have not found one post which was started by a teacher complaining about their hard life.

liney

gregg1 wrote: »

Good for you - it appears you have all the attributes needed to be a teacher.



Incidentally, You did not specify primary in your original post. Yes, primary is more over-subcribed than secondary but a large proportion of NQT's do not go into primary do they? If they don't why is it oversubscribed? I am also sure if you searched hard enough you would find articles which highlight the fact that many teachers are leaving the profession.http://education.guardian.co.uk/policy/story/0,,2232528,00.html yep, they are leaving for career development, to return as new teachers to obtain the incentives, taking early retirement in their 50's because the pension is very good, amoungst the reasons such as poorly behaved students. 12,000 return to the profession each year which also says something. Also, Maths and Science teachers are greeted with a golden handshake for a very good reason - they are in short supply. Hence i said, 'unless you are going to teach maths or science'... so yes.

And maybe I have not researched properly (feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this) but I have not found one post which was started by a teacher complaining about their hard life. Perhaps i wasn't specific enough. Any thread about education generally escalates into teacher martardom. I know a teacher or two, and it's amazing that they don't work until 11pm every night, and all weekend, and no they don't teach art or IT. There are plenty of ' i work all the hours God sends', and 'my wife is a saint and she never has time off because she's a teacher' posts around.

I am not anti teacher, i support my child's school with rules and fund raising etc, i simply think if people are so unhappy with their jobs then they have every opportunity now days to change career. It is not slavery, and there are no 'who works the hardest' competitions as far as i know. We all have a choice.

aimee21j

liney wrote: »

I am not anti teacher, i support my child's school with rules and fund raising etc, i simply think if people are so unhappy with their jobs then they have every opportunity now days to change career. It is not slavery, and there are no 'who works the hardest' competitions as far as i know. We all have a choice.

I haven't seen any teacher complaining (only me because my arm hurts!). Threads, be it school dinners or the fence on the field, always comes back to teachers and questioning their role. Surely, this board is the right place for us to discuss that?

moneypooh

I have always tried to be responsible when it comes to taking the children 'out of school', but there are times when I get seriously miffed. All the inset days were different this year - why couldn't they get that co-ordinated? I had to take time off work for both schools.
My son is about to leave primary for secondary school this summer. The SATs were insane and he worked solidly at school and with homework. However since they have finished he is suppose to be going through a transition period. To me all that seems to be is rehearsing for the end of term musical and playing cricket!!!
Like 90% of the year he doesn't have a big part in the musical so his rehearsal is limited and he plays cricket the rest of the time, oh, sometimes rounders!!
Why would taking him out for a few days be wrong? He has one swap day in July, that's it - some transition.:rolleyes:

liney

aimee21j wrote: »

I haven't seen any teacher complaining (only me because my arm hurts!). Threads, be it school dinners or the fence on the field, always comes back to teachers and questioning their role. Surely, this board is the right place for us to discuss that?

I am guilty of taking this thread off topic so i'll bow out, but happily discuss the roles of teacher in 'Discussion Time' where it would be more appropriate.

aimee21j

liney wrote: »

I am guilty of taking this thread off topic so i'll bow out, but happily discuss the roles of teacher in 'Discussion Time' where it would be more appropriate.

Been there, done that