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Time to retreat to cash?

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  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    gozomark wrote: »
    one of the biggest lessons I learnt as a trader was - which is more important to you, your pride or your pocket ? pride = heart, pocket = head

    not selling at a loss even though you think cash will outperform equities - thats your pride talking

    I don't think it's pride. Because of my long standing aversion to equities I don't have enough in them, and therefore have not 'lost' enough recently for it to be a big deal. I can afford to leave it there indefinitely and hope that eventually I get it back. Although I do believe that cash will outperform equities for the foreseeable future, leaving the relatively small amount that I have in equities there is a sort of hedge against being wrong about that. Making a 'rational' decision between the two and effectively putting all the eggs in one basket or the other assumes that ones prediction are necessarily correct in a very uncertain environment. That to me is not rational.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    George

    It comes down to what you consider your neutral stance to be. To me, neutral is 100% in cash, and having anything in equities as risky. Others consider that extreme - if you believe that, say, a 50:50 split between equities and cash is neutral, then you having say 25% in equities and believing cash will outperform equities is also rational, which is what I understand your last post to say.
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    gozomark wrote: »
    George

    It comes down to what you consider your neutral stance to be. To me, neutral is 100% in cash, and having anything in equities as risky. Others consider that extreme - if you believe that, say, a 50:50 split between equities and cash is neutral, then you having say 25% in equities and believing cash will outperform equities is also rational, which is what I understand your last post to say.

    That is essentially my point, yes.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    in that case you are smarter than the average bear (pun intended) :-)
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    gozomark wrote: »
    in that case you are smarter than the average bear (pun intended) :-)

    Thanks. No bull from you either I notice.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    its either right or it isn't

    Coming from the same background I can understand what you mean..

    Buy when the market is rising, and sell when it's falling is another phrase that I have often quoted on this site.

    Buy and Hold is a stategy, that to anyone coming from a background as a Trader, is nonsensical.
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    purch wrote: »

    Buy and Hold is a stategy, that to anyone coming from a background as a Trader, is nonsensical.

    actually I have no problem with a buy and hold strategy, as long as its drip fed in and drip fed out, its done in a diversified manner, and for a sufficiently long time period. Whats important is consistency of approach.
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Yes I agree

    Probably what I meant was 'Buy and Hope' which is a strategy adopted by many investors.
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    that makes sense :D
  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    Isn't 'buy and hold' what fund managers are essentially trying to persuade small investors to do ? Much of the promotion talks about the need to think long-term, and points out the merits of equities over other forms of saving and investments during the 20th century when viewed in moving 10 year periods, or longer.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
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