Another Outside Tap question

Cinders2001

My mum needs an outside tap 'installed'.
Her water is around the front of the house and we want the tap around the back.

What do you suggest that does not involve going through the house?
Can it go around the house?
If it can, what do I need?

Thanks

jblack_2

There are no bathrooms or kitchen at the back of the house?

If not then are the floors concrete or wooden?

J

Steve_xx

You wouldn't want to be installing a pipe that goes around the outer walls of the property. The reason is because in winter the water could freeze in the piple and then cause leaks.

The best course of action would be to run the pipe under the floor if there is a suitable void in her floor? you might find it easier to work with plastic piping as it bends fairly readily and will afford some protection against frost where it exits the house.

Cinders2001

jblack wrote: »

There are no bathrooms or kitchen at the back of the house?

If not then are the floors concrete or wooden?

J

No it's purpose built disabled bungalow and all the water bits are at the front of the building.

The floor is wood or something similar as it 'gives' as you walk on it. The carpet is stuck down for wheelchair use.

Steve_xx wrote: »

You wouldn't want to be installing a pipe that goes around the outer walls of the property. The reason is because in winter the water could freeze in the pipe and then cause leaks.

The best course of action would be to run the pipe under the floor if there is a suitable void in her floor? you might find it easier to work with plastic piping as it bends fairly readily and will afford some protection against frost where it exits the house.

As above with the floor issue.
The bungalow is in Cornwall so frost is not too bad there.
Would not the heat from the house protect it anyway as it is so close to the wall?

If I could put it around the outside of the house, how would I do corners? Can you join pipe and plastic corner joints?

d123

Cinders2001 wrote: »

No it's purpose built disabled bungalow and all the water bits are at the front of the building.

As above with the floor issue.
The bungalow is in Cornwall so frost is not too bad there.
Would not the heat from the house protect it anyway as it is so close to the wall?

If I could put it around the outside of the house, how would I do corners? Can you join pipe and plastic corner joints?

Just my view, but if aren't even sure how to join pipe, surely you should rather get a professional or experienced DIY'er to either do the job or help you.

Imagine the problems if you do the job and it all goes wrong a week later when you aren't around. What will your mother do when she has a leak spraying all over her neighbour's property?

Cinders2001

Hehehehe, well there it that to it!

I have installed our own outside tap but this one needs more thinking about!

Steve_xx

Yes you can join pipe, no matter whether it is copper or plastic. You can buy angled corner joints in both plastic and copper. Also, you can use plastic joints on copper pipe. The plastic joints are easier to fit than copper (yorkshire fittings) joints as they require no heat to make the joint. Plastic joints will be more expensive than copper yorkshire fittings. You could alternatively use compression joints, these are usually made of brass, and again require no heat. They are fixed to the pipe with spanners, and again they will be more expensive than copper yorkshire fittings.

If you are proposing to put it around the outside of the house then I would suggest that you use plastic and you probably ought to lag the piping to protect against frost. The frost issue is very real and you ought to give it due consideration.

I'm thinking that if you were to fit a stop-tap inside the house at the start of the new length of pipe, and then ensure that the new length of pipe slopes slightly downward as it travels around the house to the new tap, then it would be possible for you to shut-off the new stop-tap and leave the new tap running until much of the water in the new section of piping has been expelled. You must remember to leave the new tap open whilst you turn the new stop-tap off, otherwise a lot of water will remain in the pipe and you may run into leaking problems with the frost issue.

andrew-b

You need to keep the amount of pipework on the outside to an absolute minimum else it may freeze up in the winter months. How about running a pipe to the back of the house through the loft space? If there is a cold water tank in the loft there will already be a mains cold supply up there that you could tee off from. You could DIY it either with compression joints or pushfit fittings but it might be better to get a plumber in if your unsure.

Andy

silvercar

Why not put the tap at the front and run a hose pipe round to the back?

Cinders2001

silvercar wrote: »

Why not put the tap at the front and run a hose pipe round to the back?

Mmm, thought of that. Mum lives on a housing estate and is on a water meter though.

Steve_xx

Cinders2001 wrote: »

Mmm, thought of that. Mum lives on a housing estate and is on a water meter though.

I'm puzzled as to how those facts would affect this proposal?