Car park fine/invoice - retail park over stayed - do I HAVE to pay??

jamalfatty

Send them an invoice back for £75 for the use of your letterbox, and include a picture of your doormat before the letter dropped on it, and afterwards

Ploddy

jamalfatty wrote: »

Send them an invoice back for £75 for the use of your letterbox, and include a picture of your doormat before the letter dropped on it, and afterwards

PMSL :rotfl:

I am intested in how they managed to trace you, surely they can't access the PNC or DVLA database.

I would ignore it personally, I had one of these from a private company put on my car recently. It had my reg number on it and some other bits of info.

I knew they wouldn't be able to trace me via my reg so didn't pay it. They CAN keep you vehicle details on their OWN database though, so just be careful if you park there in future, you may find yourself with a clamp.

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers!

The DVLA sell your details to companies such as these.

headpin

Ploddy wrote: »

PMSL :rotfl:

I am intested in how they managed to trace you, surely they can't access the PNC or DVLA database.

They pay the DVLA to provide the details of the Registerd Keeper (RK). So much for Data Protection!! And, you may be interested to know, that the DVLA have been exposed as providing this info to any old Tom, !!!!!! or Harry even though they are suppose to vet who they give it to. They did agree a year or so back to be more careful but only recently it has been suggested that your local pit bull clampers and enforcers are still being provided with the RK info from the DVLA. Trouble is it is a nice little earner for them - many £'millions over the past few years.

Also it is the RK details that are provided. Unless the Parking Company can prove who the driver was this information is effectively worthless. But what you must never do in any correspondence with them is admit to either being or knowing who the driver was. They must provide the proof. They will try and scare and intimidate the RK in to paying up by making unenforceable threats and using scare tactics. But that is all they are. This is a Civil Offence not a Criminal one and they have no more legal power or enforcemnt rights than you would if you decided to sue your neighbour for breathing your air.

Bailiffs have no more power without a Court Order than you or the next man has. They may try and suggest otherwsie but unless they have a Court Order they cannot force you to pay and neither can they enter your home and/or sieze your property in lieu of payment. Indeed, official Court Licenced Bailiffs would not usually act in a threatening or intimidatory manner. And to get a Court Order the driver would not to be identified, be summoned to Court, be found to have breached the “Parking Contract” and had “damages” awarded aginst him or her and then failed to pay what the Court had awarded. To have reached that situation the driver would have had to have been offered the chance to pay, and if refused t have recieved all of the Court paperwork as well as the judgement and the ordere to pay up. So it would be most unusal to not be aware about what was happening and for Court Bailiffs to just appear out of the blue on the driver's doorstep.

Ploddy wrote: »

I would ignore it personally, I had one of these from a private company put on my car recently. It had my reg number on it and some other bits of info.

I knew they wouldn't be able to trace me via my reg so didn't pay it. They CAN keep you vehicle details on their OWN database though, so just be careful if you park there in future, you may find yourself with a clamp.

Unless you breach their rules the next time you park they should not clamp you. They would be breaching the requirements of Private Security Industry Act 2001 (often known as the SIA Regs) and whoever clamps you (they are individually licenced by the SIA - It is not a company licence) would be commiting a criminal offence and you would be entitled to call the police and ask them to arrest the person who applied the clamp unlawfully. The police will suggest that it is a civil matter and they will not get involved. THAT IS NOT CORRECT. It is a criminal matter under the SIA Regs and they must enforce the provisiomns therein that are criminal offences. If they do not take the officers name and number and say you will be making a formal complaint and also seeking compensation from his Chief Constable for any loss and other costs and inconvenience you suffer as a result of his refusal to enforce the law.

ticketcollector

jamalfatty wrote: »

Send them an invoice back for £75 for the use of your letterbox, and include a picture of your doormat before the letter dropped on it, and afterwards

Oh I like it.
Ive done something similar for TV Licensing and their automated letters.