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Objecting to Planning Permission?

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  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    Something similar is happening in Bournemouth:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=545492

  • divadee
    divadee Posts: 10,609 Forumite
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    the thread harryhound links to is my thread about objecting to planning permission, my situation is slightly different as there was bo outline already in place he just went for full planning permission.

    If you need any help writing letters etc... just pm me i can let you have copies of mine so you can see the sort of thing you can object to.

    you can object on light and privacy issues, that was what we have just had the appeal mainly dismissed on, the issues for our property.

    Also you said that your neighbours dont care about it, the one who bought the house with OPP in place can still object, there is no issue with that at all, if your adjoined neighbour is moving surely the new buyers may have a problem with it, and also it will come in the local searches the buyers have so they might object strongly to it.

    On the leylandi issue, if it goes above 2m then they can apply to the council to have it lopped at your expense. Your best bet is to grow bamboo (some giant species can get very very tall) as this is not covered under the high hedges regulations so noone can make you chop it down. Bamboo can be very invasive though so read up on it carefully.

    Anything else just pm me.
  • UncleMonty_2
    UncleMonty_2 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Find out the distances between their windows (i.e. the master bedroom) and your kitchen windows etc. They have to comply to set privacy distances.
  • ClassicMad
    ClassicMad Posts: 105 Forumite
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    Hi Divadee

    Yes, I read your post last night as it come to the top of the pile again.... Congratulations... and I was going to drop you a line too! The house that's right next to the plot is actually owned by a University who lets it out and it was them that got the OPP in the first place so they could sell it on. The person who rents the house was pre-warned that the plot would be sold off, and I'm sure there would have been something written in to say that they therefore couldn't object to it... but I will be canvassing the neighbours anyway, so I will find out for sure.
    I've found the number of somebody who can calculate the loss of light (via a website) but I've just called them and they have a 3 week backlog! Aaargghh, my objection needs to be in by the 10th.... I'll send you a pm for those letters still... that would be a great help.
    Oh and I was just cheeky and called the architect for a copy of the plans.... hopefully will have them this afternoon.
    Bye for now
    (Thanks Harryhound and Unclemonty)
  • Dinah93
    Dinah93 Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    I have no idea how much an agent would charge for writing a letter for you, but unless you can club together with other neighbours to share the cost, I would consider it wasted cash. Unless you have a point that the planning officer would otherwise be unaware of, such as your daughter, you do not need to pay someone to write this letter. Planning officers deal with planning cases such as this on a daily basis, and automatically consider the effect the structure would have on neighbouring residents. The fact that you have put the objection in is the most important thing, raise any points you think might be relevant such as overshadowning, effect on the streetscene, problems with parking in the area, loss of privacy, seperation distances etc, and let the officer consider them, your letter will come across as more reasonable.

    I am a planning officer. Any comments made on these forums are informal opinion and should be taken as such. Planning guidelines vary between authorities, and you should consult your local council's planning team for in depth advice.
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  • pulliptears
    pulliptears Posts: 14,583 Forumite
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    If I have this right, its a plot of land, with houses either side and you are directly to the back of the plot?

    You want a bungalow on there, but that would surely look worse in the middle of 2 houses?

    My next question, if their are houses either side I presume there are bungalows behind those as well? Do they suffer at all for having houses at the bottom of the garden?
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    It is strong grounds for objection if the new dwelling significantly affects the amount of sunlight falling onto your rear garden. There is software available which will enable you to determine the amount of shadow falling onto your garden based on the height of any proposed building at any specific time of day. However, such shadow falling during the winter months would give less grounds for objection that shadow falling between, say, April to September.

    Beware of this one.
    I bought a house in June. Lovely South facing rear garden (for a terraced house in a town centre).
    At he back there was a 7ft wall, a carpark and then about 100 yards away a supermarket. It was one of those single story jobs with a huge tiled roof, that would not look out of place in ancient Egypt.
    Come November, December, January the sunny back garden got exactly 20 minutes of sunshine, as the rising sun peeped between an office block and the supermarket. It then spent the rest of the day, just below the sloping ridge lines of the supermarket. If one wanted any sun, one could go into the upstairs bathroom and open the window:eek: Very "bracing" in January:rolleyes: and a recipe for "permafrost" in the garden.:D
  • ClassicMad
    ClassicMad Posts: 105 Forumite
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    So, yesterday afternoon I called our Parish Clerk in the hope of getting some support from a councillor.... and she informed that there was a meeting last night and that they would be looking at the plans and would I like to come along and have a say? Of course...interesting experience!..... anyway, I put my objections forward and was then bombarded with questions from the council regarding the position and the effect it would have on our property. They agreed that this would definitely have a detrimental effect, and that they would put in an objection too. As it already has Outline permission, they will recommend that a bungalow goes up instead. In answer to "pulliptears" question... yes there are detached houses either side, but the road as a whole is a mixture of houses, bungalows and chalet bungalows. As the applicant has gone to great lengths to explain that the houses either side do not have side windows, they wouldn't have a problem with being overlooked, would they :rotfl: . But in the next breath they explained that the planning permissions granted/refused in recent times in our village have been a bit of a farce. A small development built in a pub carpark got the go ahead despite numerous valid objections and a small one storey extension that wouldn't intrude on anybody got refused... they wished me luck. They did say that there should be at least 3 objections for me to be taken seriously.... which goes against previous advice.... The bungalow I'm attached to has got a house directly behind it (the one that went with this plot) and believe me, it's not nice sitting in her living room. The line of sight is such that from the 1st floor of the house they'd probably see you threading a needle at the back of your living room the view is so clear. But, it was like that when she moved in... the house was there before her bungalow, so that's not an issue... it's just being there last night (enlisting her help for an objection letter) I could see the future of my little old bungalow, and I DON'T LIKE IT!!

    Dinah93.... in your opinion, is it the quality of the objection that counts, or the number of objections.... would you look at it as "only 1 neighbour has a problem with it" and disregard it?
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    If they get permission then you must be entitled to "bungalow gobble" by applying for a second story.
    Then you will have enough money to move?
    Harry
    PS I don't expect to be thanked for this remark, but I am thinking goose & gander.
    Perhaps if you rushed in your application under a false name that would put the cat amongst the pidgeons?
  • UncleMonty_2
    UncleMonty_2 Posts: 19 Forumite
    You need three objections for it to be taken to committee or an interest from a Councillor.
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