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can I still claim compensation?
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Marvellous picture ......:rotfl:it's what trainee barristers do all the time......SteveyLomas wrote: ».....I've even been practising launching my damning indictement of my letting agent (they held the deposit) in front of the mirror. I have almost upset myself with the stinging invective I have hurled at my reflection!
Hope your invective is not of the personal ’Abhorred monster! Fiend that thou art!’ kind…….
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Frankenstein is the least of it. If you hear my arguments, you will believe that the cyclone in Burma and the earthquake in China are pretty much directly because my deposit was not regisited in a TDS. I think the judge is going to rip up the rule book and have the LA sent to the gallows for their crimes against humanity!0
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""Personally I'm really looking forward to a day in court - hardly anything at stake and I get to call someone 'm'lud' in real life. I've even been practising launching my damning indictement of my letting agent (they held the deposit) in front of the mirror. I have almost upset myself with the stinging invective I have hurled at my reflection!""
small claims courts are a room, a bloke in a suit - the judge who you call "sir" - and a table or two for you and the other party to sit at
nothing like Court number 1 at the Old Bailey I'm afraid !0 -
It's not compensation, it's a fine.
Important to remember that... it's not to compensate the tennant for their losses it's to punish the Landlord for being a retard.
The deposit scheme is to prevent scumbag landlords with-holding the deposit for no reason... until the deposit scheme, many landlord simply saw it as their holiday money...
Once a few cases have gone through and a few landlords fined, landlords will get the message and all deposits will be put into the scheme... but it needs a few sample cases so they get the message.
Personally I think it would be simpler, instead of a fine, to imprison the landlords for 30 days, or better still if the deposit isn't protected within 30 days the ownership of the property switches to the tennant.Bankruptcy isn't the worst that can happen to you. The worst that can happen is your forced to live the rest of your life in abject poverty trying to repay the debts.0 -
It's not compensation, it's a fine.
Important to remember that... it's not to compensate the tennant for their losses it's to punish the Landlord for being a retard.
The deposit scheme is to prevent scumbag landlords with-holding the deposit for no reason... until the deposit scheme, many landlord simply saw it as their holiday money...
Once a few cases have gone through and a few landlords fined, landlords will get the message and all deposits will be put into the scheme... but it needs a few sample cases so they get the message.
Personally I think it would be simpler, instead of a fine, to imprison the landlords for 30 days, or better still if the deposit isn't protected within 30 days the ownership of the property switches to the tennant.
I'll do you a deal, as a consideration for you having your wishes regarding punishment for the LL's, can we have all the dirty filthy lying cheating tenants who leave clean properties in a mess and/or don't pay the bills, strung up from the nearest lampost?0 -
Now look what you've done Squat - set the Captain off.;)
However.......Once a few cases have gone through and a few landlords fined, landlords will get the message and all deposits will be put into the scheme... but it needs a few sample cases so they get the message.
Totally agree. And I'd have preferred to have seen a requirement that all deposits held by LLs/LAs should be registered with a scheme, regardless of the date the tenancy commenced or when the deposit was received.0 -
Now look what you've done Squat - set the Captain off.;)
However.......
Totally agree. And I'd have preferred to have seen a requirement that all deposits held by LLs/LAs should be registered with a scheme, regardless of the date the tenancy commenced or when the deposit was received.
Personally, I would prefer if the fine (3x deposit) was paid to the Deposit Protection Service or the local council for some important social work rather than to the tenant.
Whoever thought of the idea? IMHO badly drawn up. My view: let the fine still exist as a deterrent to LAs/LLs, but put to much, much better use.
I'm sure there are 'professional scam tenants' somewhere just itching for and probably doing all in there power to ensure the 14 days elapse without receiving their confirmation letter!Tough times never last longer than tough people.0 -
""dirty filthy lying cheating tenants who leave clean properties in a mess and/or don't pay the bills,"
a mate has just had a tenant move out and it will cost £8k to repair all the damage .......0 -
""dirty filthy lying cheating tenants who leave clean properties in a mess and/or don't pay the bills,"
a mate has just had a tenant move out and it will cost £8k to repair all the damage .......
Yes, there are good and bad amongst both Tenants and LLs. Given that the troublesome tenants are in the minority, the behaviour of the few cannnot justify the behaviour of a huge number of LA/LLs who unfairly kept ordinary Tenants' deposits, those who continue to try to do so and/or those who fail to register those deposits in compliance with the law.
Sorry Clutton, but didn't you say in another post:....... there are a small, a very small, % of landlords that have a bad time - its like anything else in the public eye / media (and we are part of it here on MSE) - you only hear about the bad guys - i rarely hear my LL chums talk of tenants that have trashed their properties - maybe this boils down to professional LLs take more care in vetting tenants.0 -
""huge number of LA/LLs"
please point me to the research showing this "HUGE" number of LLs who keep deposits
how many LLs are there in this country ?
what percentage keep deposits ?
what % of those were kept unfairly ?0
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