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Duplicate Tax Disc -on taxed car with no tax disc, bought at auction

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  • goldspanners
    goldspanners Posts: 5,910 Forumite
    john539 wrote: »
    Paying tax twice is not Green or environmenatlly friendly.

    Also you can offset your carbon footprint by buying carbon credits & planting trees in Brazil.

    hahaha,and your going to do this with the money you save from scamming the tax? :rotfl:
    ...work permit granted!
  • vikingaero
    vikingaero Posts: 10,920 Forumite
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    John,

    The DVLA records aren't 100% accurate. The disc may have already been encashed.

    Put it this way:

    Let's assume that I put my car into auction and took the tax disc with me with the intention of obtaining a refund.

    John buys the car and applies for a duplicate disc on the basis that I "may have lost it". If he obtains a disc then he has deprived me of the £ remaining on that disk and that is theft. I would go and report him to the Police and expect them to act on it.
    The man without a signature.
  • Janeyjaz
    Janeyjaz Posts: 544 Forumite
    Mt car was smashed into by someone who did not put his handbrake on - they admitted responsibility, my car went to garage to be repaired - then the insurance company range me to say they were writing the car off, they made me an offer and said they would put instructions in writing - I got a letter from insurance company and they told me to contact them to check the whereabouts of the car so I could remove my personal belongings - I did and they told me they had sent it to the salvage yard and they would return my possession to me - including a tax disc valid till the end of Jan 2009 - the next day the salvage yard rang - nothing in the car, all my belongings were missing and the tax disc - rang insurance company and they said to send them a list and they would compensate me - but I would have to claim my tax from DVLC - still waiting and this happened in March, a week later someone rang my husband to say that he had bought my car at auction and could he have the spare key for it.
    Titch :)
  • MORPH3US
    MORPH3US Posts: 4,906 Forumite
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    This thread is hillarious!

    Can everyobe replying just remember please (no matter how hard it is sometimes) please be nice to all moneysavers (i.e. everyone on this board)... thats not me trying to be a mod or brown nose, I just don't see a need for swearing and shouting...

    In reply to the OP (for all the good it'll do) I think legally and morally you have no right to ask for a tax replacement....

    For the sake of £30 (?), I wouldn't risk it.
  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    MORPH3US wrote: »
    This thread is hillarious!

    Can everyobe replying just remember please (no matter how hard it is sometimes) please be nice to all moneysavers (i.e. everyone on this board)... thats not me trying to be a mod or brown nose, I just don't see a need for swearing and shouting...

    In reply to the OP (for all the good it'll do) I think legally and morally you have no right to ask for a tax replacement....

    For the sake of £30 (?), I wouldn't risk it.

    Spoilsport...I think he should risk it.wink.gif

    terryw
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • wildbri
    wildbri Posts: 218 Forumite
    I keep seeing quotes ( that a vehicle that not taxed is not insured) this cannot be true, if you sorn your car and keep it on the drive or in your garage then it is still covered with the insurance you have paid
  • john539
    john539 Posts: 16,968 Forumite
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    vikingaero wrote: »
    Let's assume that I put my car into auction and took the tax disc with me with the intention of obtaining a refund.

    John buys the car and applies for a duplicate disc on the basis that I "may have lost it". If he obtains a disc then he has deprived me of the £ remaining on that disk and that is theft. I would go and report him to the Police and expect them to act on it.
    Do you expect the Police to take action against the DVLA for issuing a Duplicate according to their rules ? :rotfl:

    You've reported it, then the Police have to verify what you say, then verify with the DVLA, verify with me, collect all evidence, then what ?

    Then go round the merry circle again & again & again.

    Don't hold your breath. :beer:
  • john539
    john539 Posts: 16,968 Forumite
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    wildbri wrote: »
    I keep seeing quotes ( that a vehicle that not taxed is not insured) this cannot be true, if you sorn your car and keep it on the drive or in your garage then it is still covered with the insurance you have paid
    Yes, you will see a lot of rubbish spouted.

    Tax, MOT, Insurance are all legally separate.
    If one expires, it does NOT invalidate the others.

    Lack of Tax does not invalidate MOT or Insurance.
    Lack of MOT does not invalidate Tax or Insurance.
    Lack of Insurance does not invalidate Tax or MOT.
    .
  • Keith
    Keith Posts: 2,924 Forumite
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    john539 wrote: »
    Yes, you will see a lot of rubbish spouted.

    Tax, MOT, Insurance are all legally separate.
    If one expires, it does NOT invalidate the others.

    Lack of Tax does not invalidate MOT or Insurance.
    Lack of MOT does not invalidate Tax or Insurance.
    Lack of Insurance does not invalidate Tax or MOT.
    .

    Unless it is specified in the terms and conditions of the insurance.
    You've reported it, then the Police have to verify what you say, then verify with the DVLA, verify with me, collect all evidence, then what ?

    Well that is the job of the police. I'd be more worried about the DVLA simply cancelling your duplicate disc, and your car being towed or clamped.

    The DVLA have a legal department who deal with this kind of thing.

    Strangely it's part of that department who check all their forms, just so that the wording is acceptable to someone who wants to scam £50 ;)
  • john539
    john539 Posts: 16,968 Forumite
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    Keith wrote: »
    Unless it is specified in the terms and conditions of the insurance.

    Well that is the job of the police. I'd be more worried about the DVLA simply cancelling your duplicate disc, and your car being towed or clamped.

    The DVLA have a legal department who deal with this kind of thing.

    Strangely it's part of that department who check all their forms, just so that the wording is acceptable to someone who wants to scam £50 ;)
    So, is it specified in your Insurance, go check.

    And you know the inner workings of the DVLA ! :rotfl:

    As far as Police & DVLA know, it could just be the previous owner trying to scam the new car owner. :p :rotfl:

    Things are starting to look complicated for the Police & DVLA.
    Somehow I think they've got other things to do & will just tell previous owner it's up to him to sort it all out.
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