Incapacity Benefit/ESA aged 61

seven-day-weekend

From 2010, anyone who has claimed IB since 2003 will be brought into the new ESA rules (assuming the new Tory Government we'll have by then doesn't move the goalposts).

My husband has claimed since 2004, but by 2010 he will be 61. We may be back resident in the UK by then. What can he expect to happen to his claim, bearing in mind that even if he wasn't claiming IB, at 61 he could have Pension Credits, NI credits and would not be expected to look for work? Will he be put onto the ESA?

Thanks in anticipation.

krisskross

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

From 2010, anyone who has claimed IB since 2003 will be brought into the new ESA rules (assuming the new Tory Government we'll have by then doesn't move the goalposts).

My husband has claimed since 2004, but by 2010 he will be 61. We may be back resident in the UK by then. What can he expect to happen to his claim, bearing in mind that even if he wasn't claiming IB, at 61 he could have Pension Credits, NI credits and would not be expected to look for work? Will he be put onto the ESA?

Thanks in anticipation.

Will he be getting below the level for pension credit in his teachers pension? I know our private and occupational pensions take us way over the limits. i guess his choice would be to go onto pension credit if possible, even a tiny amount will give you the passported benefits that will go with it. Certainly I don't think he will have to go onto ESA. When does the pensionable age go up from 60?

seven-day-weekend

We will not be eligible for Pension Credit because of savings, and also he will have his Teachers' Pension and I will have my State Pension.

The reason I mentioned it was because if he WAS eligible he would not be expected to look for work at his age and was wondering if he would be put on the ESA and expected to look for work or whether he would remain on IB?

[Deleted User]

following a govt U turn it now looks like it could be as late as 2014 before many existing I/B claimants are moved to ESA,even if they pass the new work capability test being introduced from 2010 it wont mean an end to their I/B claim,nor will they now be forced onto pathways to work and all that entails

seven-day-weekend

woodbine wrote: »

following a govt U turn it now looks like it could be as late as 2014 before many existing I/B claimants are moved to ESA,even if they pass the new work capability test being introduced from 2010 it wont mean an end to their I/B claim,nor will they now be forced onto pathways to work and all that entails

Ah right Woodbine - in January 2014 he will receive his State Pension anyway!

Thanks to you and krisskross.

healy

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

From 2010, anyone who has claimed IB since 2003 will be brought into the new ESA rules (assuming the new Tory Government we'll have by then doesn't move the goalposts).

My husband has claimed since 2004, but by 2010 he will be 61. We may be back resident in the UK by then. What can he expect to happen to his claim, bearing in mind that even if he wasn't claiming IB, at 61 he could have Pension Credits, NI credits and would not be expected to look for work? Will he be put onto the ESA?

Thanks in anticipation.

I was wondering where have you read that people claiming since 2003 come under the ESA rules from 2010? I thought it applied to everyone no matter when they claimed. Just to add the updated information from Woodbine is how things stand at the moment.

seven-day-weekend

I read it somewhere ages ago (can't remember where now) and then today on Discussion Time board in a post by Morglin here:

this has already been covered....
Contributory IB is ONLY paid to those who have paid in for a qualifying period.

For those who have not paid in enough, they currently go onto Income Support (based on being unable to work through sickness).

From October, both unemployed and sickness based claimants will go onto ESA (new claims only) - which has bought unemployment payments in line with IB.

They will then be assessed as to whether they are fit for work, fit for some work, or not fit for work at all. Current recipients will not be affected, until after 2010, when claims made after 2003 will be bought into it (although things will change with an election before then, I expect). Claims made before 2003 will not be affected at all (at present).

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/...15412.xml.html


Lin

stazi

From October, both unemployed and sickness based claimants will go onto ESA (new claims only) - which has bought unemployment payments in line with IB.

Sorry.. don't think so.

ESA replaces only non linking IB and IS new claims from Oct 08. ESA does not replace JSA.

healy

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I read it somewhere ages ago (can't remember where now) and then today on Discussion Time board in a post by Morglin here:

this has already been covered....
Contributory IB is ONLY paid to those who have paid in for a qualifying period.

For those who have not paid in enough, they currently go onto Income Support (based on being unable to work through sickness).

From October, both unemployed and sickness based claimants will go onto ESA (new claims only) - which has bought unemployment payments in line with IB.

They will then be assessed as to whether they are fit for work, fit for some work, or not fit for work at all. Current recipients will not be affected, until after 2010, when claims made after 2003 will be bought into it (although things will change with an election before then, I expect). Claims made before 2003 will not be affected at all (at present).

http://www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk/JCP/...15412.xml.html


Lin

I know you are the messenger and I am not shooting you! I have had a look at the link and cannot find any mention of claims after 2003 being brought into ESA from 2010 and have not seen anything about this anywhere. As I said before Woodbines information is the latest.

seven-day-weekend

Oh I didn't look at the link as I DO remember reading it somewhere previously so assumed the information Morglin posted was correct, sorry.

If as Woodbine says it is from 2014, then that is better for my husband as he will be receiving his State Pension then.

What will happen to his claim in the meantime? Will he still have to pass the PCA?

stazi

7DW

Satisfying the PCA up to age 60F/65M is a condition of remaining on IB.