can he do this.....

frugallass

Director of a charitable organisation (answerable to the Board of Directors) states that there isn't a flexi-time policy in operation

Director contracted to work 37.5 hours per week and gets paid a monthly salary

Director arrives at work 09:45am every day - states that he has his phone with him and is contactable by email and phone from 9:00am

Director often (but not all the time) takes 2 hour lunch breaks and very rarely works overtime

Director reads out salary information and bank details of staff during a phone call to the bank

Lots of other small gripes but these are the main concerns - what do you guys think? should these issues be highlighted in staff appraisals taking place in next few weeks or should we put up and shut up?

floss2

I think you may find that as a Director, he has a more flexible working relationship with his Board than his staff do with him. At that level you re expected to be more flexible & he may work at night or at weekends that is not seen & that he does not claim as overtime. I am not defending him, but I work for an Assistant Director in local government & they have a flexible pattern like this.

What was the context of the phone call to the bank - to make changes to the payroll maybe?

frugallass

He very rarely works later than 6pm and does not work weekends

The phone call was to set up a standing order for our salaries to be paid into our accounts, he read each persons name, their bank account details and their salary for that month out loud - we share the office with another organisation and it's all open plan

Oh another thing, we often see him playing a well known online/internet game - world of warcraft

dmg24

But how do you know that he is not working at home? I doubt you could prove that he was not.

The phone call should have been made in private, but in an open plan office, was there anywhere else that he could have made the call?

I doubt that playing on the internet is a disciplinary offence at his level!

I echo what floss2 has said, his working arrangements are possibly more open ended than those of other employees. However, if he is meeting targets, I doubt anyone would be concerned as to how he is utilising his time.

Iamthesmartestmanalive

Sounds like bitterness,

Directors will have to work outwith 9-5, just because you dont see it doesnt mean it doesnt happen

As for the bank details, not ideal but not illegal or a breach etc

As for internet access, bring it up but expect all your little issues to be brought up and scrutinised

Tbh it sounds like this poor director has a bunch of troublemakers under him

Lavendyr

frugallass wrote: »

Director contracted to work 37.5 hours per week and gets paid a monthly salary ...<snip>

In my business we stick to the policy that our business is our own business and we don't poke our noses into others. What you see may be very far from what is true, and what your director does or doesn't do has absolutely no relevance to what you do or do not do. It's best, safest and most sensible to stick to things that have a bearing on you and your contract with the business. The majority of things you have listed have absolutely nothing to do with you and you have no right to bring them up.

frugallass wrote: »

what do you guys think? should these issues be highlighted in staff appraisals taking place in next few weeks or should we put up and shut up?

The only thing that *might* be worth mentioning is the reading-out of salaries. If this was done in a place where others could hear it, it is an inconsiderate thing for him to have done and clearly does have direct bearing on you. So if it really concerns you (and I can well understand why it would), you could mention this carefully. However, if it is an open-plan office, your concerns should not be directed at the director himself, but rather at the person/s responsible for the layout of the office if it really does not permit confidential conversations to be carried out. A constructive way to bring it up might be to suggest an area of the office be compartmentalised so as to allow confidential information to be conveyed by telephone - rather than attacking the director for not being discreet.

tanith

frugalass in answer to your question its a YES he can.... as the others have said its not really your place to bring any of those things up . He can come and go as he pleases as long as he is contactable and the hours he spends in the office really are none of your business... its one of the perks of being the boss... (to all intents and purposes he is) . I agree a word regarding the banking incident would be acceptable...

mymatebob

Don't confuse presentee-ism with work.
Just because someone is not at their desk doesn't mean they are not working.

I would have thought a quiet word in the Director's ear to say, "you know that we can all hear these personal financial details" would do the trick.

Certainly not worth waiting for an appraisal to do it

Got2change

The company I used to work for (American origins) had an appraisal process in place that was 360 degrees - i.e. those lower down in the food chain were asked for performance review of those above. Not really sure if it went as far as Director level; the Director to whom I reported was never reviewed by his subordinates but then he was a really nice guy (his predecessor but one was a different gall game though...); there was certainly a template for the process and am sure it could have been followed through. What I'm getting at though is does your organisation have similar as part of it's appraisal/objective setting process? If not, personally I'd live and let live - there is such a thing as bullying from below and you would need to take care that it wouldn't be seen in that way.

Conor_3

frugallass wrote: »

Lots of other small gripes but these are the main concerns - what do you guys think? should these issues be highlighted in staff appraisals taking place in next few weeks or should we put up and shut up?

He's the boss, you're not. Therefore as the boss, he can do what the hell he pleases. My wifes' boss went golfing this morning - just decided to go off for a few hours. She doesn't care. If you don't like it, you become a boss and then you can do what you please.

Bosses coming in when they please and taking long lunch breaks is something that's been going on for eternity and is one of the perks of being the boss.

Also how do you expect him to pass information to the bank regarding you getting paid if he does it over the phone?

By all means you can bring it up in the appraisals but he can also fire you as well and you're more disposable than him so it's your call.

mymatebob

Conor wrote: »

He's the boss, you're not. Therefore as the boss, he can do what the hell he pleases. If you don't like it, you become a boss and then you can do what you please.

Bosses coming in when they please and taking long lunch breaks is something that's been going on for eternity and is one of the perks of being the boss.

Also how do you expect him to pass information to the bank regarding you getting paid if he does it over the phone?

By all means you can bring it up in the appraisals but he can also fire you as well and you're more disposable than him so it's your call.

I think he is "only" a Director not the boss.

Bosses coming in when they please and taking long lunch breaks is something that's been going on for eternity and is one of the perks of being the boss.

I wish! I must be in the wrong business