Petrol or Diesel

Lakeuk

BBC Breakfast this morning reconed that half of cars sold at the moment are diesel, if this is true that the price will probable be down to more demand than supply.

Have worker over from Indian and diesel over there is alot cheaper than petrol but they don't have the market for diesel cars

insidejob_2

Last week I accompanied a friend who was getting a new Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 petrol. We queried this with them and their advise was " if you are planning to do more than 40,000 a year go diesel, if not petrol ". Only if you are towing would that change round.

thescouselander

Lakeuk wrote: »

BBC Breakfast this morning reconed that half of cars sold at the moment are diesel, if this is true that the price will probable be down to more demand than supply.

Have worker over from Indian and diesel over there is alot cheaper than petrol but they don't have the market for diesel cars

Yes but the demand for diesel will also increase making it more expensive.

Hintza

inside/job wrote: »

Last week I accompanied a friend who was getting a new Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 petrol. We queried this with them and their advise was " if you are planning to do more than 40,000 a year go diesel, if not petrol ". Only if you are towing would that change round.

You were talking to a salesman!!

You have to get out the old spreadsheet and calculate the costs.

My point is I suspect the diesel price will rise faster than petrol.

photome

AdrianHi

your example works if both fuels go up by the same percentage but that isnt what is happening..diesel is going up by a bigger percentage, it is already at 11 to 12% some places..half way to your 23% figure.

I think some people buying diesel cars are not getting vfm.

We have two cars a diesel that does about 30000 a year and a petrol that does about 4000 a year. ( which I think is a sensible option) as another poster has said there are people with diesels that only do low mileage about town IMO that doesnt make any sense

AdrianHi

photome wrote: »

AdrianHi

your example works if both fuels go up by the same percentage but that isnt what is happening..diesel is going up by a bigger percentage, it is already at 11 to 12% some places..half way to your 23% figure.

I think some people buying diesel cars are not getting vfm.

We have two cars a diesel that does about 30000 a year and a petrol that does about 4000 a year. ( which I think is a sensible option) as another poster has said there are people with diesels that only do low mileage about town IMO that doesnt make any sense

Low annual mileages around town and no question, small petrol engine is best.
Also to the earlier post saying they only get 35-38mpg around town, I currently get 46mpg on my diesel, I know from past experience if I do short trips around town all the time I only get around 37mpg in the same car.

> , it is already at 11 to 12% some places..half way to your 23% figure.
Agreed, diesel price is rising faster and petrol engines are getting more economical closing the gap. I picked an example which gives best advantage to petrol since most diesels are 30% or more economical than their diesel equivalents. And yes, we are half way to the 23% in the example already. For those two cars bought new and run for 36 months on 14,000 miles a year the diesel is cheaper, but only by £15 a month. It is quite likely that within the service life of these two cars the tables will turn and the petrol cars cost of use will drop below the diesels. Makes picking the right car on cost alone really difficult!!!
The example I picked is one where the manufacturer has made great leaps in petrol engine efficiency.
In the next 2 years (production date not committed to yet) Vauxhall are going to have a 43mpg 158bhp petrol "HCCI" engine, where they won't be making the same improvements in their diesel engine as far as I know. That engine will almost certainly swing it back to petrol for Vauxhall drivers.

julie97au

We are thinking of changing and have always driven a diesel and the repair cost have been fairly low, but our mechanic told us that in the newer diesels a set of injectors is around £1400 before the mechanic has done any work and there are two pumps which can cost £400 and £250 again before any work is carried out, so be careful, especially if it has high miles. We were advised to go petrol or buy one with the injectors already replaced. The other option is buying a petrol and converting to gas - it costs around £1000 for the gas conversion but the gas only costs about 49p litre.

photome

julie97au wrote: »

We are thinking of changing and have always driven a diesel and the repair cost have been fairly low, but our mechanic told us that in the newer diesels a set of injectors is around £1400 before the mechanic has done any work and there are two pumps which can cost £400 and £250 again before any work is carried out, so be careful, especially if it has high miles. We were advised to go petrol or buy one with the injectors already replaced. The other option is buying a petrol and converting to gas - it costs around £1000 for the gas conversion but the gas only costs about 49p litre.

I drive a company diesel focus with nearly 100000 on it (3 years old) as a company we have 200 plus cars and they all do around 100000 in a 3 to 4 year period....we have very few engine problems.

If you were not to buy things on the basis that the might go wrong, you prob wouldnt buy anything

MJI1962

anewman wrote: »

Not when it comes to insurance

As long as it is certified you are OK

I'm insured!

MJI1962

AdrianHi wrote: »

For LPG conversions you are also looking at giving up a large chunk of bot space for the tank to get enough LPG fuel capacity to give a worthwhile range. The wheel well tanks are small. Then you have to have an LPG supply available close by otherwise your just running on petrol too often.
It's a bit of a mine field, bit if you are really determined to cut the cost of fuelling a much loved thirsty petrol car it can work out.
I think this web site http://www.lpginfo.co.uk/ has a great story to tell which should allow you to approach an LPG conversion with your eyes open so to speak.

About 1/4 of my boot

Some cars you can fit spare wheel sized tanks