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Blatant Fee Avoidance

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  • StaffsSW
    StaffsSW Posts: 5,788 Forumite
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    Cue everyone now saying that eBay and paypal fees can not be weighted onto the P&P charges...!
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  • soolin
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    It is all immaterial anyway as business sellers will be desperate to keep their stars high and are unlikely to mess around too much with inflating poat and packing charges.

    Even smaller sellers will need to watch their stars and a few 2 or 3* for post and packing charges may be enough to head any seller down towards the 'bottom 5% of sellers' rule and a possible suspension.
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  • Time2Go_25
    Time2Go_25 Posts: 997 Forumite
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    Jedster wrote: »
    But eBay will still charge the seller the same for selling the item, as fees are charged on the insertion and final price of the item !!!!! :mad:

    So you will still pay the fees for listing and selling the item whatever the postage.......................

    But by adding a little extra to the postage, they will be passing the fees on to the buyer, as all shops pass the cost on to the customers

    Has that explained it now ?? :p

    Very nicely put.

    Hope my maths is OK as I most of the Ebay tools I use are blocked by a firewall.

    List an item at £0.99, it sells for £0.99 and you have £2.50 postage to cover P&P + fees and you pay £0.17 to Ebay.

    List the same item at £1.99, it sells for £1.99 but you only have postage at £1.50 to cover P&P, you pay £0.30 to Ebay.

    Therefore in your example by including the fees in the postage you are doing Ebay out of £0.13 in fees.

    So :p back to you.:D :D:D

    :beer:
  • DGJsaver
    DGJsaver Posts: 2,777 Forumite
    pdel61 wrote: »
    Yes it is as your adding the charges to the P&P and not including them in the item.

    How is it avoidance when E-Bay STILL get the relevant fee....
  • kevinyork
    kevinyork Posts: 1,232 Forumite
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    DGJsaver wrote: »
    How is it avoidance when E-Bay STILL get the relevant fee....

    As per PDEL61's post, they dont get the relevant fee at all, they get less.
  • Clarence63
    Clarence63 Posts: 10 Forumite
    pdel61 wrote: »
    Very nicely put.

    Hope my maths is OK as I most of the Ebay tools I use are blocked by a firewall.

    List an item at £0.99, it sells for £0.99 and you have £2.50 postage to cover P&P + fees and you pay £0.17 to Ebay.

    List the same item at £1.99, it sells for £1.99 but you only have postage at £1.50 to cover P&P, you pay £0.30 to Ebay.

    Therefore in your example by including the fees in the postage you are doing Ebay out of £0.13 in fees.

    Those figures don't give a good enough comparison. If you use as an example the item being talked about then starting at £5 with £320 postage, Ebay would get approximately 63p in listing and selling feess. Starting at £325 the listing fee alone would be £1.30, the total fees would be £16+ (assuming my maths are correct).

    So, as a seller which would you rather have? Which would Ebay rather you paid?
  • StaffsSW
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    Even if you load the fees into the P&P section, if the buyer pays by Paypal, the fees charged are based on the entire sum, not just the sale price.

    Paypal and ebay being two cheeks of the same ar5e ensure that one way or another they get a fair old slice of the pie.

    I'm diverting more and more traffic to my own website - £12 per year hosting, no selling fees, only Paypal transaction fees - but even those are on the higher volume/reduced rate level.
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  • barmonkey
    barmonkey Posts: 7,158 Forumite
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    stevew8975 wrote: »
    Paypal and ebay being two cheeks of the same ar5e ensure that one way or another they get a fair old slice of the pie


    I'm deffo going to use that phrase in future:D
    WWSD
    (what would Scooby Doo)
  • DGJsaver
    DGJsaver Posts: 2,777 Forumite
    kevinyork wrote: »
    As per PDEL61's post, they dont get the relevant fee at all, they get less.


    I cant be bothered to argue

    see stevew`s post
  • Bamber19
    Bamber19 Posts: 2,264 Forumite
    Sssssss wrote: »
    their time, their business what they do with it

    to all those that think we're are sad for reporting this, better a sado then a lying, cheating scum bag!

    It's not a choice of one or the other, there's an another option, that of being neither a saddo or a lying, cheating scumbag.

    Better a saddo than a lying, cheating scumbag but better to be neither at all.
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