If there was a GE tomorrow, who would you vote for??

JonnyBravo

Conservatives

dannyboycey wrote: »

If you are a British citizen, you subscribe to democracy and freedom of speech. People should be allowed to vote for whoever or whatever they want. If you disagree with them, make a stand by putting your 'X' in someone elses box. If you don't agree with this ideology, perhaps you should go and live somewhere else.

Couldn't agree more.

However, I don't think anyone was saying that it should be impossible for SquatNow to vote for BNP, more that they disagreed with it. Which of course is simply the "freedom of speech" we subscribe to.

At least, I hope that is what they were saying.

jamescredmond

Lib Dems

freedom of speech, the cornerstone of democracy.

when was this principle first established? 1688?

and yet we still find people attempting (and sometimes succeeding) to close down national debate on spurious grounds.

take the oxford union debate of recent.

nick griffin (leader bnp) and david irving (well known twister of historical fact and holocaust denier) were both invited to share a debate platform.

this may well have been a piece of student devilment, but it was interesting for what happened next: mainstream politico's pulled out and the uni's gov.body expressed grave reservations.

the debate was cancelled.

brilliant. a golden opportunity to discredit 2 right-wing bigots by sheer force of argument gone to waste.

a decent politico would have had no problem in demolishing their odious, half-baked beliefs, but the boycott and the craven attitude of the uni gave the far right a chance to squeal that they had been gagged; that the establishment's stance was undemocratic; that the other parties were running scared of the bnp's well-thought through, coherent and admirable policies. if only they were allowed to speak.

what an own goal for democracy.

I'm with you on this one danny.

free speech.

ESPECIALLY for the BNP.

JonnyBravo

Conservatives

jamescredmond wrote: »

freedom of speech, the cornerstone of democracy.

when was this principle first established? 1688?

and yet we still find people attempting (and sometimes succeeding) to close down national debate on spurious grounds.

take the oxford union debate of recent.

nick griffin (leader bnp) and david irving (well known twister of historical fact and holocaust denier) were both invited to share a debate platform.

this may well have been a piece of student devilment, but it was interesting for what happened next: mainstream politico's pulled out and the uni's gov.body expressed grave reservations.

the debate was cancelled.

brilliant. a golden opportunity to discredit 2 right-wing bigots by sheer force of argument gone to waste.

a decent politico would have had no problem in demolishing their odious, half-baked beliefs, but the boycott and the craven attitude of the uni gave the far right a chance to squeal that they had been gagged; that the establishment's stance was undemocratic; that the other parties were running scared of the bnp's well-thought through, coherent and admirable policies. if only they were allowed to speak.

what an own goal for democracy.

I'm with you on this one danny.

free speech.

ESPECIALLY for the BNP.

Couldn't have put it better myself. Glad you typed it though!

dannyboycey

Labour

jamescredmond wrote: »

freedom of speech, the cornerstone of democracy.

when was this principle first established? 1688?

and yet we still find people attempting (and sometimes succeeding) to close down national debate on spurious grounds.

take the oxford union debate of recent.

nick griffin (leader bnp) and david irving (well known twister of historical fact and holocaust denier) were both invited to share a debate platform.

this may well have been a piece of student devilment, but it was interesting for what happened next: mainstream politico's pulled out and the uni's gov.body expressed grave reservations.

the debate was cancelled.

brilliant. a golden opportunity to discredit 2 right-wing bigots by sheer force of argument gone to waste.

a decent politico would have had no problem in demolishing their odious, half-baked beliefs, but the boycott and the craven attitude of the uni gave the far right a chance to squeal that they had been gagged; that the establishment's stance was undemocratic; that the other parties were running scared of the bnp's well-thought through, coherent and admirable policies. if only they were allowed to speak.

what an own goal for democracy.

I'm with you on this one danny.

free speech.

ESPECIALLY for the BNP.

Well said.

Generali

Conservatives

I agree wholeheartedly with the BNP stuff - they are a bunch of fkwits and as soon as you listen to them speak in open debate that much is obvious. If you ban them from speaking they can say about how the PC minority want to prevent them from airing the genuine greivences of the people of Britain.

Having said that I'd be happy to give Nick Griffen the Mussolini treatment.

PS Vote Boris!

jamescredmond

Lib Dems

vote boris!?

just to remove ken?

is that the only reason?

the old etonian who, by his own admission, is a 'blithering buffoon'?

all academic now the polls have closed, but I'm surprised at your boris sales-pitch.

as much as I despise 'our ken', pushing boris is a no-brainer.

paddick might have been a better punt, even if he looks/sounds boring.

Generali

Conservatives

Well it looks like the people have voted Tory in their droves (44% according to the news this am).

The conservatives have even got seats on Sunderland council. I thought they only voted Labour or for Lunatic Real Labour or whatever they were called.

mitchaa

Conservatives

The MSE poll looks fairly similar to

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7372860.stm

Generali

Conservatives

jamescredmond wrote: »

vote boris!?

just to remove ken?

is that the only reason?

the old etonian who, by his own admission, is a 'blithering buffoon'?

all academic now the polls have closed, but I'm surprised at your boris sales-pitch.

as much as I despise 'our ken', pushing boris is a no-brainer.

paddick might have been a better punt, even if he looks/sounds boring.

Not just to remove Ken. Boris is a libertarian by instinct which is the most important qualification a politician can have IMO.

John_Pierpoint

I try to vote for the loser.
This means that my representative just might take notice of my opinion between elections.
I once lived in a Tory stronghold, where the MP was reputed to have opened his mouth 3 times in 10 years in The House. One of those was to ask for a question to be repeated (The noise must have woken him up).