LPG Bottled Gas Comparison

manager1

As someone wrote Bottled gas suppliers do not have a comparison shown anywhere.
It needs to be done!
I have been using bottled gas for 10 years with the same company and I found out recently that a neighbour has been paying £10 per 47kg cylinder less than me .
I use 38 cylinders (ave)per year. Thats for a small bungalow heating and water only ,we are all astmatic so we dont like heat either.

My gas bill per year over £1300...........
If you call your bottled gas supplier they dont have a price list Why? they want to come round and get as much as they can from you and Im sure they are visiting to see how much you can afford.
A pricing policy "AS CLEAR AS MUD"The bottled gas industry needs a good clean up, so lets start with a Nationwide comparison to see if I'm right and how big the problem is !!!!!

Mods....I hope this is allowed????


Area.Rainham ,Kent
Company. Flogas
Price per 47kg £45.00

peat

North Scotland 20/4/2008 - 47kg propane £59.22 incl vat

paceinternet

£40.57 Derbyshire, although quoted an rrp of £68.75 inc tax from the big C.

Found the following information on lpg-solutions.co.uk:
* 1 Kg = 1.985 litres = 47.132 BTU
* 7.08 KW = 1 litre = 24.170 BTU
* 1 KW = 3412 BTU

And on this site: LPG (propane) gives you 7.1kw per litre, oil 10.2kw

Presumably, they mean 1 litre gives you 7.1 kwh or 10.2 kwh

If this is correct, are we getting 93.3 litres in our 47 kg for £40.57?
If so, this is £0.43 per litre (7.08 kwh), which may be competitive with oil at 60p/l and maybe even some bulk lpg prices.
Circa £0.06 per kwh
Would appreciate some clarification on this.
Thanks

bobmedley

There are a number of ways to work it out, here's a complicated one;

47 kg liquid = 25,380 litres of gas (1kg = 540 litres of gas)

25,380 litres = 25.38 cubic metres of gas

One cubic metre of gas is 26.1kw, therefore 25.38 x 26.1 = 662.4 kw energy

£40.57/662.4 = 6.1p per kw (roughly the same as oil)

The (much!) easier way is you get 93.3 litres in your 47kg tank so 93.3 litres x 7.1kw = 662.4 kw.

The big C price equals 10.37p per kilowatt

Fill your boots!:D

UK-RV

Guy's I'm confused already does

1kg = 540 litres of gas
or

1 Kg = 1.985 litres ????

LittleVermin

UK-RV wrote: »

Guy's I'm confused already does

1kg = 540 litres of gas
or

1 Kg = 1.985 litres ????

1 kg LPG (as a liquid in the cylinder or bulk tank) produces 540 litres gas (figures vary - it depends on the temperature)

1 kg LPG (in the cylinder or bulk tank) has a volume of 1.985 litres (that's as a liquid, again). Again, depends on temperature so you'll come across slightly different figures.

HTH.

The lpgsolutions.co.uk website is a middleman's (a "consultancy") in the LPG industry, not a supplier. It has quite a few mistakes (as already identified by paceinternet) and dodgy statements!

LittleVermin

I've asked if this thread could be made a sticky (i.e. always be at/near the top of the LPG & Heating board).

Bulk LPG users, like myself, have had a sticky - called Bulk LPG - Cheapest suppliers / supply route? for a couple of months now.

There's a dormant thread called LPG / LPG Prices (merged) but this used to get posts about both bulk and bottled LPG - with lots of confusion!

{Bulk LPG users - tied into 2 year contracts - are trying to get the whole bulk LPG 'market' looked at - and hope Martin Lewis will take it up for us. We just get woffle back from our MPs, etc!

You can help, please, by adding your thanks, to this post: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=39205254&postcount=477 .

ML has written - in the first post in that thread - that he'll take up the best supported ideas as part of his annual 'moneyfesto'. And top politicians have promised to listen. He just might get action, not woffle! Oh yes: relevant info - Flogas was charging one poster on the forum 30ppl while another was being charged 68ppl - by Flogas too.}

jeffers2710

any idea of what you can be expecting on average use time....say 1-2 hours in morning for heating and 3-4 hours of an evening?

as I went through 2 cylinders in 2 weeks with this kind of usage....so I am wondering what I can do to maximise the time and lower the costs!

although my other half did say she ran the radiators constant all day for a few days