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Algon/Roundup - order of use?
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red_bertie
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Complete gardening numpty here. I have to spray our drive and patio - I need to use Algon to clear the moss and Roundup for the weeds, etc.
Is there any benefit to spraying one before the other [following days]? Any recommendations or advice most welcome. Thank you.
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The roundup will kill everything, moss included, but you won't see any change for a few weeks. This is because Roundup works by preventing the plant from making food, not by poisoning it in the toxic sense. It will take up to six weeks for them to die. You could use somthing more instant, like sodium chlorate, or Pathclear, but dealing with runoff might be a problem
I would get on with killing the weeds first, then reassess the situation. I've never used Algon, having found household bleach OK on my patios.0 -
Hi,
Please do us all a favour and go organic. Roundup is a product of the giant MOnsanto corporation, which is putting a stranglehold on farmers in the US, China and India, forcing them to use GM seeds, which are resistant to Roundup.
They are responsible for the creation of Agent orange and PCBs which have caused many problems in the health of people and our planet in general.
They are behind the push to use GM seeds at a terrible cost to the economy and ecology of the earth.
Please have a look at this website to see what I am talking about. I can't stress enough how harmful this company is to all of us and our descendants.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm
This is so important, please spread the word.
Coyotemoon.
'Be the change that you want to see in the world'- Gandhi0 -
With respect, the OP asked for an answer and I provided it in his terms. He said 'Roundup' and I responded using that term rather than the generic one. I am no supporter of Monsanto or GM crops, but I understand that glyphosate is freely available from other manufacturers and that Monsanto no longer holds patent rights on it.
As for going organic, that's a separate issue, and far from black & white as far as I'm concerned. The only organic weedkiller I know of is vinegar but, as that is indescriminately injurious to both plants and animals, I'd no more spray it around than I'd normally spray sodium chlorate, Weedol or Pathclear. On the other hand, glyphosate mixed with a bit of wallpaper paste can be targeted just where it's needed, so it's very efficient and, in my opinion, a largely harmless way of dealing with difficult weeds. Two examples that come to mind are my neighbour's bindweed & rambling rose (which he thinks has a disease!) plus my own dandelions that skilfully grow right amongst desirable plants.
Where organic solutions are the most efficient, such as the use of nematodes to kill vine weevil larvae, I'm all for them. Nematodes versus organophosphates = no contest, but it's not always as simple as that.0 -
Well, I don't know much about Roundup, but I have just bought two bottles of Algon as an organic patio cleaner seemed like a good idea, and the little information I could find about it suggested it would work well. Just a day after I bought it, the latest copy of Which? arrived, which said don't touch it with a bargepole - it doesn't work. Anybody had a good experience with it?0
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katie: yes I found it very effective, even on the wooden fence around our paddock - it has actually lasted longer in terms [nearly a year] of the wood in keeping the algae away. The concrete areas not so long [6 months], but we are surrounded by trees, the water runs down from fields etc. and the new spores just keep coming.
coyotemoon: Going organic for week killer is not an option for us, it's ok if you have a manageable size garden, our isn't. We have the most persistent and obnoxious self seeding weeds over a large area.
dave: thanks for your input on order of spraying, it made good sense and I'm going to go with your recommendation.
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The cheap and old fashioned way was 1oz of Sulphate of Iron dissolving into 2 gallons of water, mixed in a plastic watering can with a fine rose this will make moss killer this is good for
lawns and the older looking patio's or if its new patio caustic soda will clean it wearing the right
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