Tree ID thread

tanith

You don't need to put them in the dark but somewhere cool and shady would do... I think the bag is just to make sure they are in a damp environment just to give them a good start but it could take several weeks for them to root and establish themselves as new plants.. I would take the bag off after a week or so and then just keep them well watered in a shady spot in the garden... you could just tip them out of the pot gently in a month or so to see if they have any new roots , if so very gently pot them in in individual pots and keep them watered... if they grow well they might be ready to go out in the ground next spring...
This is the way I would do it but I am sure there are more experts out there who may have a different method...

*MF*

^ ...would agree, but hey, I am no expert, and I succeeded without the plastic bag, and in a very sunny spot (luck probably, certainly not expertise) - but I took 3 cuttings to be safe, and each grew, have since been repotted, and stand now after 3 years about 2/3 feet tall. I haven't planted them out yet, because whereIi want at least one of them to grow still needs a lot of work done to it - but the plan is for next year - and the other two will be given away as presents.

It was a Portugese Laurel that I took the cuttings of, and right now they are covered in small white flowers

Anyways ... if I can do it, anyone can.

frivolous_fay

I think the crabapple thing is a red herring really (I did harbour dreams of jelly for a while!)

MF's suggestion sounds pretty good - definitely some hawthorn tendencies, although the leaves are completely different, other than the shoots at the bottom.

Here it is from the top of my garden - so if your neighbour has something that looks like this, ask them what it is

Jack's_mummy

In flower like that now I would say Hawthorn too

rubiales

I suspect it is either hawthorn or pyracantha (firethorn). See here:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pendernursery.com/Images/Pyracantha-%27Kasan%27-flowers.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pendernursery.com/Catalog/Detail/pyracanthacoccineakasan.html&h=300&w=400&sz=58&hl=en&start=27&sig2=ORfFLrp6PThx_JaRq0mMWA&um=1&tbnid=LT8oK_aHssVAVM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&ei=onU6SLGsBabE0QT9qsidDg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpyracantha%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GFRD_enGB243GB244%26sa%3DN

I have pyracantha in my front garden. Virtually impenetrable and although it has no sweet smell does give colour in winter when little else is about. The birds in my garden are usually grateful for the berries, too.

jonathanbriggs

Looks like a Crataegus (hawthorn) to me.

The commonest Crataegus is common hawthorn - but there are lots of ornamental species that are planted in gardens. This one seems to be one of the less-lobed leaves but big spined ones - possible C. crus-galli (Cockspur Hawthorn) or C. prunifolia - or a hybrid between one of these and another one...

The sucker from the base looks like ordinary hawthorn C. monogyna.

Someone mentioned C. laevigata (Midland Hawthorn) - which also comes in lost of varietal forms - but I reckon it's more of a crus-galli/prunifolia type.

But definitely Crataegus - certainly not Pyracantha...

*MF*

Not completely ruling out my suggestion of a Midland Hawthorn hybrid - but I think you may well be correct - jonathanbriggs.

Some good photos of the Cockspur Hawthorn for comparison here:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/crcr5649.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/crcr.html&h=294&w=350&sz=26&tbnid=C7fFQE91BP8J:&tbnh=101&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcockspur%2Bhawthorn&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=2

rubiales

jonathanbriggs wrote: »

Looks like a Crataegus (hawthorn) to me.

The commonest Crataegus is common hawthorn - but there are lots of ornamental species that are planted in gardens. This one seems to be one of the less-lobed leaves but big spined ones - possible C. crus-galli (Cockspur Hawthorn) or C. prunifolia - or a hybrid between one of these and another one...

The sucker from the base looks like ordinary hawthorn C. monogyna.

Someone mentioned C. laevigata (Midland Hawthorn) - which also comes in lost of varietal forms - but I reckon it's more of a crus-galli/prunifolia type.

But definitely Crataegus - certainly not Pyracantha...

Happy to bow to superior knowledge but did look a lot like the big bush in my front garden