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  • righter
    righter Posts: 89 Forumite
    would definitely recommend Elizabeth David on baking to "understand" the ingredients and the making of bread.

    yes you can knead too much (once asked husband to finish off dough...turned out like a brick) and middle son doing master baker qualification...glanced at his coursework and it explained why overkneading is not a good idea.

    as i`ve said before my bread only gets about 13 turns.

    if you want square bread for sandwiches,get a pullman tin with lid.

    have been adding those dried cooked onions,usually in olive oil section in my co-op (why?) that plus seeds....bread lasts all of...1 min in this house...toasted with butter...a meal in itself.
  • righter wrote: »
    yes you can knead too much (once asked husband to finish off dough...turned out like a brick) and middle son doing master baker qualification...glanced at his coursework and it explained why overkneading is not a good idea.

    Why is over kneading not a good idea?

    My bread used to be rubbish, then I started kneading it more and it got a lot better.

    I have also heard several well known TV chefs say to knead for 20 minutes. I'm pretty sure bread making machines give the dough a lot more than 13 turns too.
  • nick_b
    nick_b Posts: 219 Forumite
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    Why is over kneading not a good idea?

    My bread used to be rubbish, then I started kneading it more and it got a lot better.

    I have also heard several well known TV chefs say to knead for 20 minutes. I'm pretty sure bread making machines give the dough a lot more than 13 turns too.

    It's pretty hard to over knead if you do it by hand, but machines can if you're not careful. Over-kneading stretches the gluten too far and means the dough won't hold its shape so well.
    0_o
  • righter wrote: »
    would definitely recommend Elizabeth David on baking to "understand" the ingredients and the making of bread.

    yes you can knead too much (once asked husband to finish off dough...turned out like a brick) and middle son doing master baker qualification...glanced at his coursework and it explained why overkneading is not a good idea.

    as i`ve said before my bread only gets about 13 turns.
    .

    Must admit I dont knead mine long either. Certainly not the 10mins they say, more like a minute.
    Loved our trip to the West Coast USA. Death Valley is the place to go!
  • cirrus18
    cirrus18 Posts: 185 Forumite
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    If you like me you love continental style, crisply crunchy crust bread and have been unable to obtain such perfection with home-made bread here is the answer.
    With much scepticism I tried out the recipe and instructions as seen here on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_kmSalsNgM&feature=related and as unbelievable as it may seem it truly works and you will get the best crisp crusty bread that you've ever tasted.

    The long fermenting time, 18 plus hours, releases all the lovely trapped flavours in the flour.

    You don't need any fancy Dutch Ovens, any ovenproof dish with a lid will work absolutely fine. I used a Pyrex 8 inch dish.

    Professional bakers, to get nice crispy bread use steam in the oven. This is a bit hard for us home bakers to emulate.
    Baking the bread in a lidded container acts like a steam oven as it traps in the moisture/steam.
  • cirrus18
    cirrus18 Posts: 185 Forumite
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    How to Make No-Knead Ciabatta Bread The title tells it all.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX_6l2bmvQI
  • thriftlady_2
    thriftlady_2 Posts: 9,128 Forumite
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    I've just uploaded a sequence of photos showing my breadmaking routine if anyone is interested.

    This is not the only way to make bread but it is how I do it and it suits me:)

    There are a lot of pics but once you've done it you'll know how easy it is and how little of your time it takes.

    Here they are -How to make bread by hand

    Now I really need to go and make some :D
  • northwest1965
    northwest1965 Posts: 2,067 Forumite
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    Lovely photos, very helpful. Some of those tins are on my shopping list! Do they do different sizes?
    Loved our trip to the West Coast USA. Death Valley is the place to go!
  • thriftlady wrote: »
    I've just uploaded a sequence of photos showing my breadmaking routine if anyone is interested.

    This is not the only way to make bread but it is how I do it and it suits me:)

    There are a lot of pics but once you've done it you'll know how easy it is and how little of your time it takes.

    Here they are -How to make bread by hand

    Now I really need to go and make some :D

    What size loaf tins are they Thriftlady? I'm toying with making bread by hand and ditching the panny :eek:
    Squares knitted for my throw ~ 90 (yes!!! I have finally finished it :rotfl: )
    Squares made for my patchwork quilt ~ 80 (only the "actual" quilting to do now :rotfl:)
  • thriftlady_2
    thriftlady_2 Posts: 9,128 Forumite
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    What size loaf tins are they Thriftlady? I'm toying with making bread by hand and ditching the panny :eek:
    They're just standard 2lb loaf tins. You don't have to make bread in a tin. But of course if you do you get a more sandwich-friendly loaf and you can get more loaves in the oven at once.
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