Landlord Vent !!

Wig

But it depends what sort of person the tennant is, if they are 'that sort' then you kick them out surely? Or do you not care who is in your pad as long as you get the money.

chugalug

Did the OP hold a deposit and a month's rent in advance from the tenant? If so then get professional cleaners in to clear the property. That surely is the reason for holding this money in hand - then if the tenant owes rent or they leave the place a tip it's used by the landlord and not returned to the tenant. Plenty of landlords keep deposits on the slightest pretext, that doesnt make them all bad. Some tenants are a pain and do a runner/leave a mess/cause hassle, that doesnt make them all bad. You also allocate a part of the rent charged for wear and tear and this is all tax deductable. Surely overall you're in profit - if so vet your tenants and start again, if not sell the property and pocket the nice fat cheque and appreciate that most tenants have contributed to that nice fat cheque!!!

TheChillPill

Wig wrote:

But it depends what sort of person the tennant is, if they are 'that sort' then you kick them out surely? Or do you not care who is in your pad as long as you get the money.

It's not as easy as that, and the tenants know it. Even for a tenant that doesn't pay a penny can take a year or more to evict. If you do receive housing benefit directly, the courts usually won't allow an eviction at all.

Ignite

Wig, you seem to be very quick to forget the law. A tennant has rights under English law and you can not just turn up when you like and look at the property. You have to give at least 48 hours notice under a normal shorthold tenancy to enter the property. Also, you can not just kick them out. You have to either wait until the end of a tenancy agreement, or go through the courts. If you do break the tenancy agreement as a landlord, the courts look at this very dimly. The current compensation figures (to the tennant) for an illegal eviction are over £10,000.

https://www.letlink.co.uk has a lot more info.

Wig

You have a clause in the agreement that the landlord has the right to enter for maintenance, or inspection of the property at a reasonable time (and no doubt notice is to be given)......so what? as long as the place is clean when you turn up to inspect, that is all that matters.

When I said "kick them out" above I meant legally, not illegally obviously.

If you can't stand the heat......

Don't buy to rent, simple, you are going to get stung sooner or later, but (as poster above says) your rent is supposed to cover for these eventualities. Like he said wear and tear / cleaning is all tax deductable.

chugalug

It's not true that it takes a year to evict a tenant. If the tenant has broken a term of the tenancy agreement accelerated possession proceedings can be taken. If the reason is rent arrears and the tenant owes at least 8 weeks rent both at the serve of notice and the time of the hearing then possession is automatically granted. So serve notice when the tenant moves in (S21, pretty standard) begin proceedings if rent owed, couple of weeks for a court date in the county court then 2 weeks for bailiff's to execute warrant and there you are. Landlords have plenty of rights - problem is some of them are clueless they just want a fast profit.

Wig

Chugalug,

Really? Landlords start non payment of rent proceedings in advance just incase? I never knew that, but it certainly seems like a sensible thing to do. Doesn't the tennant get sent related paperwork? isn't that a bit threatening for the tennant to have to put up with - considering they are paying their dues?

I may have misunderstood, so could you clarify what you mean re: S21 and when it should be served.

Somerset

Wig wrote:

You make your bed, you lie in it. Why did you not do regular inspections, like when you collect the rent? I know you said there was an agency involved, so why didn't they check? .

They did every two months ( full management ). Last time was fine. This time it's a tip. Why do you think the tenants did a runner 6 days before final inspection ?


You kept the deposit right? so what's the problem? If the deposit was not high enough to cover the damage, that's your fault. .[/QUOTE]

The deposit may or may not cover the damage/redecs. However you've made me think I'm lucky they didn't strip out & flog the period features. That would be my fault too right ?

I think you have a problem with rich !!!!!! landlords Wig who rip tenants off. This thread started with the opposite - manipulative, calculating, nasty tenants who take the landlord for a ride.

Everyone needs to take personal responsibility for their own actions. These tenants were properly treated - when repairs needed doing they were done, when HB funds didn't cover their rent, they weren't hassled.

Unemployment/illness is not a personal choice. Leaving rubbish, dirt, flea's and pets ( the rat ? ) in an empty house is a choice. Doing a runner to avoid acknowledging that, is a choice. Rich - poor - black - white - male - female etc is irrelevant. It's about standards and personal responsibility.

Wig

I'm not condoning their actions, they were wrong, but every two months doesn't sound enough to me, I'd want every month. And how do you know the agents aren't lying to you?

My point is you should be proactive in stopping this from occuring in the first place, and the old saying is "if you want a job doing properly you do it yourself". Having had the problem, you should be able to afford to fix it, because you have a deposit and a months rent. And on top of this there is an element of your rent which theoretically tots up over time to cover for these events.

At the end of the day you have the money to get it sorted.

elona

So it is alright to trash a place because the landlord can afford to sort it out?

Is it alright to burgle people who look well off and are insured etc. etc.?

I will not develop the point as it is scary.:eek: