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grayme-m

I don't like reading poor English either.

I'm not meaning whether the above should be either or neither, but the simpler stuff like 'I no', and 'ai'nt'.

A self confessed grammar na*i, though at least I am not a murderer.

grayme-m

mummyyummy wrote: »

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read all the way down and enjoy!! lol

Does daddy know his kid is selling his car. :eek:

mummyyummy_2

yeah I know..glad you enjoyed..trying to lighten the thread a bit lol xmyx

bestpud

moonrakerz wrote: »

I find this statement even more amazing than the attitude of the students. Why should you reduce your standards ? you should help people to improve theirs. not just give in to mediocrity. If these people are not adult enough to accept well meant advice - should they be at university in the first place ? You go to Uni to learn and improve yourself, surely that should include grammar and spelling ?



I did not say that - as you are fully aware. I will respond to any post (even yours ! ) if I think I can offer something of value (or humour!). You asked for my opinion, I gave it, if you don't like the possible answers - then sorry, but don't ask the question.

You asked why people are irritated by poor spelling; I told you why I am irritated by it.
Because this doesn't appear to line up with your views, I then become someone who won't listen to a Brummie or Scouser (I have a West Country accent myself) and ignore people whose spelling and grammar isn't 100%.

You seem to be able to read a lot more into someone's personality from a post on this site than you accuse me of being able to.

I haven't reduced my standards in that sense. I didn't mean that at all! I was referring to me getting exceptionally stressed to the point I was unable to hand an assignment in, because I felt it could be improved. Not in terms of spelling or grammar though.

It was in response to you saying you take pride in everything you do. I do too!

I was pointing out that I don't find poor spelling an issue on this forum, even though I share your attitude to tasks and businesses.

You are entitled to your opinion and it was not my initention to sound critical of you.

I asked because it has perplexed me every time one of these threads has cropped up. That was all.

I asked about you ignoring posts because you said you would pass a business if the sign was incorrect. Perhaps I didn't word it very well but that is the crux of my original question.

Threads like this highlight the frustration some people feel and I wondered if a vent every now and again helps? It seems people need to know they are not alone.

Anyway, again, I apologise if I seem critical. Yours is the most common reason given by people and I guess I was trying to understand why it matters to you in a context like this. Probing further if you like because I am interested, given I know people who struggle with spelling.

moonrakerz

bestpud wrote: »

Probing further if you like because I am interested, given I know people who struggle with spelling.

My son is dyslexic, and struggles with his reading/writing and spelling. If he asks for help with his spelling I give it, if I see a mistake he accepts my correction gladly, unfortunately he cannot remember that correction and will miss spell that same word two minutes later.

I just find it strange that the general attitude nowadays, especially in educational establishments, to ignore grammar and spelling to be totally misguided (but it is PC !) . "He might just be another Leonardo da Vinci or Einstein, so we mustn't tell him that he can't spell cat or dog correctly". Will it destroy his budding talent if he is taught how to spell correctly ?

Perhaps I'm turning into a Grumpy Old Man !

bestpud

moonrakerz wrote: »

My son is dyslexic, and struggles with his reading/writing and spelling. If he asks for help with his spelling I give it, if I see a mistake he accepts my correction gladly, unfortunately he cannot remember that correction and will miss spell that same word two minutes later.

I just find it strange that the general attitude nowadays, especially in educational establishments, to ignore grammar and spelling to be totally misguided (but it is PC !) . "He might just be another Leonardo da Vinci or Einstein, so we mustn't tell him that he can't spell cat or dog correctly". Will it destroy his budding talent if he is taught how to spell correctly ?

Perhaps I'm turning into a Grumpy Old Man !

I agree with you about education. I have been horrified by some of the appallingly written work my children have recieved good marks for.

MY OH is very concious of his poor spelling and as such would need to check most words. Because he lacks confidence with writing and is so keen to make sure he gets it correct, it would take him forever to post a few lines. That's because of the way he is, not this site btw!

However, he is very intelligent and could no doubt help people on here and other sites.

Now, I'm wondering how many people like him would perhaps improve their writing skills and overcome their embarrassment if they felt able to make the odd mistake without receiving the sort of criticism they have in the past.

The very act of checking their spelling and using words in this way would be helpful but I can understand why they would be put off by having to check every word. It adds to their anxiety, surely?

This won't be the case for every poster obviously - It's just another way of viewing it. Maybe some people with literacy problems need to enjoy using the written word again, or for the first time in some cases?

bestpud

moonrakerz wrote: »

My son is dyslexic, and struggles with his reading/writing and spelling. If he asks for help with his spelling I give it, if I see a mistake he accepts my correction gladly, unfortunately he cannot remember that correction and will miss spell that same word two minutes later.

I just find it strange that the general attitude nowadays, especially in educational establishments, to ignore grammar and spelling to be totally misguided (but it is PC !) . "He might just be another Leonardo da Vinci or Einstein, so we mustn't tell him that he can't spell cat or dog correctly". Will it destroy his budding talent if he is taught how to spell correctly ?

Perhaps I'm turning into a Grumpy Old Man !

I agree with you about education. I have been horrified by some of the appallingly written work my children have recieved good marks for.

MY OH is very concious of his poor spelling and as such would need to check most words. Because he lacks confidence with writing and is so keen to make sure he gets it correct, it would take him forever to post a few lines. That's because of the way he is, not this site btw!

However, he is very intelligent and could no doubt help people on here and other sites.

Now, I'm wondering how many people like him would perhaps improve their writing skills and overcome their embarrassment if they felt able to make the odd mistake without receiving the sort of criticism they have in the past.

The very act of checking their spelling and using words in this way would be helpful but I can understand why they would be put off by having to check every word. It adds to their anxiety, surely?

This won't be the case for every poster obviously - It's just another way of viewing it. Maybe some people with literacy problems need to enjoy using the written word again?

Freddie_Snowbits

When you are talking about you, it is you're not your! When they look nice it is you're drop dead gorgeous. If it belongs to them it is your handbag!

When it is not here, but elsewhere it is there, If it belongs to someone, it is theirs or their.

If someone talks codswallop, they are talking bo!!ock5 or more literally, they're talking a load of bull

Now have you got it!

bestpud

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

When you are talking about you, it is you're not your! When they look nice it is you're drop dead gorgeous. If it belongs to them it is your handbag!

When it is not here, but elsewhere it is there, If it belongs to someone, it is theirs or their.

If someone talks codswallop, they are talking bo!!ock5 or more literally, they're talking a load of bull

Now have you got it!

:rotfl: I don't remember my English teacher mentioning the last one! :rotfl:

moonrakerz

bestpud wrote: »

Now, I'm wondering how many people like him would perhaps improve their writing skills and overcome their embarrassment if they felt able to make the odd mistake without receiving the sort of criticism they have in the past.

The very act of checking their spelling and using words in this way would be helpful but I can understand why they would be put off by having to check every word. It adds to their anxiety, surely?

This is, perhaps where our attitudes diverge. In this day and age one is not allowed to say boo to a goose, in case you upset the goose !

Too many people think, or others seem to think on their behalf, that being told that they have spelt something incorrectly is blatant criticism, condemnation, insulting or even racism - instead of a piece of helpful advice.

My MP's name is Murrison, I have seen his name spelt Morrison on several occasions. It is an easy name to mispronounce or mishear. If I were writing to this gentleman and called him Morrison and someone pointed out this error to me, I would be delighted. I would have been mortified to send him a letter and spelt his name incorrectly - then my anxiety levels would have been high !!