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In a bad place....don't expect you can help
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Nicki, you are making assumptions about the OP's condition that make it sound more severe than it actually is (from the given information).
The OP has not even been formally diagnosed with Aspergers yet.
This information does not appear anywhere in this thread, and as I am not a mindreader, I'm bemused as to why you think I might know this. The OP says on this thread that he/she has AspergersWith Aspergers, admin could be a good area for me.
Based on what OP says her medical condition is, and on what she has posted about her anxieties about the proposed role, I still feel that what I have said about the help that is available for her is highly relevant.
Why do you and foreign correspondent have such a problem with OP getting some support to help her do the job which he/she has been offered?0 -
How about contacting the employer and asking for a chat with them asap?
Maybe say you are concerned about your qualifications (or lack of) and ask what resources they have available to help you teach this diverse group?
I can understand you being nervous but it may not be as bad as you think. You should be able to roughly split the group into smaller ability levels and that way can deal with one group at a time, while the others do tasks set to their level.
It shouldn't be like a school, where you have to hold attention of the whole class all the time.
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious!
My sister had the same job a few years ago and she was not qualified at all. She had nothing more than poor GCSE results at the time. In fact she struggles with literacy, a bit, herself. She managed fine though. The biggest issue she had was the fact that they were sent there from JCP and so they needed constant encouragement to boost their confidence and keep them motivated. The teaching part was relatively easy.0 -
Why do you and foreign correspondent have such a problem with OP getting some support to help her do the job which he/she has been offered?
You misunderstand, I have no problem with the OP getting some support, if needed to do the job. What I am concerned about is that s/he is being offered a job, is clearly skint and miserable because of it, in a grotty bed sit - and yet there is a very real risk that s/he will not take the job because s/he has worries s/he is not qualified to do it. I am concerned her lack of confidence will keep her trapped in this crappy situation, as I do think s/he is most likely very capable of doing the job.
The OPs belief that she is not qualified to do the job, despite it being offered to her/him, by people who have met and interviewed her/him, to me sounds like lack of self confidence and self belief, not surprising considering the circumstances. S/he needs to bite the bullet and believe she can do it, not look for reasons why s/he might fail.
I dont think bandying around negative statistics about how high unemployment is among people with autistic spectrum disorders is particularly encouraging or helpful to the OP actually.0 -
This information does not appear anywhere in this thread, and as I am not a mindreader, I'm bemused as to why you think I might know this. The OP says on this thread that he/she has Aspergers
Based on what OP says her medical condition is, and on what she has posted about her anxieties about the proposed role, I still feel that what I have said about the help that is available for her is highly relevant.
Why do you and foreign correspondent have such a problem with OP getting some support to help her do the job which he/she has been offered?
The OP also has a thread on the Benefits board that states that they have not yet been diagnosed with Aspergers. It is clear from early posts in this thread that related information is on another thread.
If you bothered to read my posts, you would see that I was encouraging the OP to give the job a go, as was foreign correspondent. It was the OP that threw back any positive suggestion made.Gone ... or have I?0 -
If you bothered to read my posts, you would see that I was encouraging the OP to give the job a go, as was foreign correspondent. It was the OP that threw back any positive suggestion made.
Absobloodylutely dmg! I have never been so slated for giving a bit of an encouraging shove, which to be fair we all need from time to time.
Also, the OP needs to work on being a bit more positive - "in a bad place... dont suppose you can help" equates to "I have been offered a job - some advice please?"
C'mon you've been offered a job - you should be celebrating, and why assume no-one will help? But you have to help yourself too.0 -
these kind of attitudes annoy me. I did a degree in social care which over qualifed me for most social care positions yet i was still unqualified for many other positions. I searched,applied and was interviewed for 6months before i bit the bullet and applied to temp agencies and CLARKS shoes shop would you believe- i was that desperate!! pretty much anyone can get a job in my opinion its just a question of what they are prepared to do. COnsidering accepting a job at Clarks as a graduate on a salary of £5.20 or so an hour was not one of my greatest moments but hey at least I was prepared too (didnt actually have to accept the job though as i got given admin work temping at the council)!0
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foreign_correspondent wrote: »I dont think bandying around negative statistics about how high unemployment is among people with autistic spectrum disorders is particularly encouraging or helpful to the OP actually.
And I don't think telling the OP that their Aspergers is irrelevant, and that many people with Aspergers are hospital consultants (on the basis of no evidence whatsoever) is helpful to the OP or to anyone else on the spectrum either. Nor the implication that your disabilty is more real than theirs.
It's all very well giving people a shove if all that is standing in their way is laziness or a lack of self-confidence. If the lack of self-confidence is due to a medical condition however, and the OP tells you that this is so, a more understanding and constructive approach is surely called for.
To put it in other terms, Jane Tomalinson, after being diagnosed with terminal cancer, took up running and raised a lot of money for charity by doing mini marathons up until shortly before she died. Should you then go into hospices and radiotherapy/chemotherapy wards up and down the land and tell all cancer sufferers to get off their asses and do the same? Or do you acknowledge that Jane Tomalinson was an exceptional woman, who was able to do something most others in her position could not, but nonetheless offer other patients encouragement and support to achieve other goals which they would find important, with extra help if this is needed.
You say you have been slated for trying to help. I feel the same way. Not once did I suggest that OP could not, or should not, take this job, but I recognised that he/she might need extra help to do so, and that you, and others on this thread, were responding to him/her in a very insensitive and unhelpful way given his/her situation. You chose to take exception to that. Others said I knew nothing about the severity of OP's condition which is true, but I did not make any assumptions as to how severe it was, just gave a range of options. I rather think that the "pull yourself together" crowd themselves made assumptions about OP's condition however, unless you all know OP in the real world.0 -
Looking back over the thread I think I have offered positive encouragement which si appropriate to the current situation. The OP has no diagnosis at this moment in time, so I feel it is a mistake to start behaving as if s/he has. I do not want to get into an arguement with Nicki about this, but this is how I see it.
I doubt the job offer will wait until a diagnosis has been made, so I would suggest that you grab the opportunity whilst it is there, and give it your best shot.
The OP could take this job and take the chance that if it works out s/he will have some positive occupation, money coming in and be using their qualifications, or could say 'no thanks' to the job and take a dead cert that they will still be be poor, fed up and unemployed for the time being. This could also cause problems with benefits if the Op is seen to be turning down offers of work, so I wuld advise thm to think very carefully before doing so.
Any new job is scary after a period of unemployment, perhaps the OP should have a chat with the guy who offered the job and let them know that s/he is keen to learn but feels a bit out of their depth as it isn't an area they have trained in (although I am sure you wil have all the transferable skills when you get into it!)
I know which I would advise a friend to do.
Don't turn this opportunity down OP, you have been stuck in this situation too long.0 -
f1re_cr4cker wrote: »these kind of attitudes annoy me. I did a degree in social care which over qualifed me for most social care positions yet i was still unqualified for many other positions. I searched,applied and was interviewed for 6months before i bit the bullet and applied to temp agencies and CLARKS shoes shop would you believe- i was that desperate!! pretty much anyone can get a job in my opinion its just a question of what they are prepared to do. COnsidering accepting a job at Clarks as a graduate on a salary of £5.20 or so an hour was not one of my greatest moments but hey at least I was prepared too (didnt actually have to accept the job though as i got given admin work temping at the council)!
Oh the shame :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Thank god you didnt have to lower yourself :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Getting back on thread (ahem)
Take the job if you've been offered it at the FE college. They will have various training courses on offer to help you with learning differentiation and with ESOL learners.
Also it is now compulsory for FE teachers to have the PTLLS - which is your certification as a practitioner of Lifelong Learning skills, which they will train you for. You have to do 30 hours of CPD during the year , which is under discussion with the Institute for Learning and Unions now as to what constitutes it and whether the colleges will pay you for but that can be sorted whilst your working.
This will then cover your living expenses requirement and your free tuition. I have been offered an hourly post at my placement college of £22/hour and they have said I can do 16 hours a week. I won't be taking up the post for various reasons, such as doing my Masters next year and the politicking at the college but there are jobs out there!!!
As a matter of interest, what have they offered you? Is it a contract or hours? And what's the salary or hourly rate?
TBH - I would snap it up, you can learn as you go along and as you have previously taught, at least you know how to go about the basics, such as lesson planning etcNoli nothis permittere te terere
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