Walls in a bad state after stripping paper

jasmin10

I have just stripped the wallpaper of the hall, stairs and landing to reveal really bad walls - I want to paint straight on them.

Hubby has said that I have no chance as we need to get someone in to re-plaster them. He knows that we haven't got the money to do this as we are getting a new roof in April.

I can't believe that there isn't anything that I cant get to help. I know there is a new poly fill smooth over thing that you can roll over walls like this but from the reviews I have read it's not very good. The only other this I can think of is to get some ready mixed plaster and plaster it myself and then get a sander to go over to get a smooth finish. Would this be the right way to plaster.

I don't know what is best and want to prove o/h wrong.

leoetal19

i recently redecoarted my kitchen and when i stripped the 'tiling on a roll' off most of the palster came too-it was dreadful and i was panic striken as i was only giving it a quick coat to tidy it up as i was skint!! my mum came to the rescue-bought some ready mixed paster stuff and re-did it then we bought really good quality lining paper and it looks terrific!! dh was totally scathing wen he saw the mess but had to eat humble pie when it was finished
i think u can see the finished look here
http://s245.photobucket.com/albums/gg56/leoetal19/?action=view&current=Picture077.jpg
good luck x

elastic_trickery

Don't attempt to plaster onto the walls to get them smooth. You will end up with a mess! And leave all those highly priced ready mixed, smooth wall, in one coat, poly whatsit products on the shelf.

Fix any loose pieces of plaster in place with patching plaster (get finish plaster from a merchants and mix it yourself) and smooth the walls as best you can. Then wallpaper over the whole lot. Job done.

In my experience if a wall covering of any sort is put over plaster then basically that's the end of being able to just paint the wall again.

Sorry ..........

elastic_trickery

And as the poster above has said, lining paper works wonders for covering up cracks.

George_Bray

jasmin10 wrote: »

I have just stripped the wallpaper of the hall, stairs and landing to reveal really bad walls - I want to paint straight on them....The only other this I can think of is to get some ready mixed plaster and plaster it myself and then get a sander to go over to get a smooth finish. Would this be the right way to plaster.I don't know what is best and want to prove o/h wrong.

You're thinking along the same lines as I did a couple of months back. YES, it can be done, and here's how. Buy plaster and polyfilla as powder though - as it's better value than ready-mixed.

My friends all suggested using ling paper as an easy route towards repainting the walls with emulsion. I decided NOT to use lining paper for two reasons:
1. The joint lines might be subtle but I'm looking for a better quality finish than that, like what they say on TV property progs.
2. The next time I need to redecorate, I fear the lining paper might bubble up and/or cause other problems.

No, I decided to go for a new, solid base as a better foundation for the emulsion. Here's what I did and why:

1. I cleaned the walls with sugar soap solution to get rid of wallpaper paste residues.
2. I applied dilute PVA (5 water to 1 PVA), all over. This really seemed to stabilise the slightly 'flakey' surface.
3. I filled all the pits in the surface with gypsum 'finishing' plaster (larger holes, cheap) or Polyfilla (smaller blemishes). When dry, I rubbed all this down until the surface was as flat as I needed. There were a few more iterations of filling and rubbing down, with the surface becoming smoother and smoother each time.
4. Apply dilute matt emulsion (not vinyl or silk) at about 10 paint to 1 water.
5. Apply 2 coats of neat emulsion (matt, silk or whatever you want).

Perfect, without the ugly, additional depth of new plaster added by a professional plasterer.

Go for it!

Regards
George

jasmin10

Thanks for all the replies. It sounds good what Geroge was saying but I think with the amount of dents, and old plaster that is on it would take forever to do.

I am interested in the lining paper, I dont want to have a wallpaper finish but would be interest in lining paper and then painting over the top. Would this not bubble when I paint over it? Would plain wall paper be thicker and better and to paint over that.

leoetal19

if you buy top quality lining paper-from memory it was about £1.50 a roll and real thick stuff-let it dry really well before you paint it you dont get bubbling at all x

jasmin10

Just a thought. Even if I put plain lining/wallpaper up once it dries you would still be able to see dent etc so either way I have to fill in the trillons of faults wouldn't I.

So if I have to do this any way I might as well take the time to do it Georges way

jasmin10

Leotal - with the lining paper being so thick do you not see dents and stuff when it's dry?

leoetal19

i think you would still need to do some prep on the wall-fill n smooth as best you can, when my mum filled it it looked so much better but was still rough-the paper covered it all though, so it depends on how bad it actually is really
you could try hanging one length???

sallyrsm

If the wall is really really bad you can double line. Line the walls with lining paper horizontally and then go vertical like you would with "real" wallpaper.