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Rayburns and the building regs
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Keldin
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We are in the process of removing our 30+ year old defunct boiler from the kitchen and would like to replace it with a second-hand Rayburn in the same spot to run the central heating and DHW.
The dilemma we are faced with now is concerning the new building regs where you need to have an A-rated boiler (read: condensing) fitted now and in the future. At present it is legal to fit a Rayburn as I understand it because it is not rated (A or anything else).
That's all fine and well but what happens in a few years time. Our friendly plumber has warned us about Compliance Certificates that are coming in 2 years time where your house will be compliant only if it has a A rated boiler, double glazing etc etc and that by 2010 you will not be able to sell a house without it being compliant. Obviously trying to sell a non-compliant house once the certificates are out and before they are mandatory will result in a lower sale price as the next owner will have to sort it out to sell after 2010.
The way I see it I am faced with 2 possible bad outcomes:
The Rayburns get a rating and they are not A (well the new ones certainly aren't efficient enough and I doubt the old ones will be) and I have to chuck mine for a newer one or put in a separate boiler and not use the one in the Rayburn.
They don't get a rating and the government says 'since they don't have a rating they automatically fail' and I have to put in a separate boiler.
One possible good outcome is they don't get a rating and I get a compliance certificate cause they can't prove otherwise.
Ideally I would not like to install a boiler since it would mean replacing a lot of pipework and repositioning it in the loft etc etc. and we really want a rayburn/aga stove anyway so it might as well do everything.
Does anyone have any experience or opinions that might help with this dilemma?
Thanks
Keldin
The dilemma we are faced with now is concerning the new building regs where you need to have an A-rated boiler (read: condensing) fitted now and in the future. At present it is legal to fit a Rayburn as I understand it because it is not rated (A or anything else).
That's all fine and well but what happens in a few years time. Our friendly plumber has warned us about Compliance Certificates that are coming in 2 years time where your house will be compliant only if it has a A rated boiler, double glazing etc etc and that by 2010 you will not be able to sell a house without it being compliant. Obviously trying to sell a non-compliant house once the certificates are out and before they are mandatory will result in a lower sale price as the next owner will have to sort it out to sell after 2010.
The way I see it I am faced with 2 possible bad outcomes:
The Rayburns get a rating and they are not A (well the new ones certainly aren't efficient enough and I doubt the old ones will be) and I have to chuck mine for a newer one or put in a separate boiler and not use the one in the Rayburn.
They don't get a rating and the government says 'since they don't have a rating they automatically fail' and I have to put in a separate boiler.
One possible good outcome is they don't get a rating and I get a compliance certificate cause they can't prove otherwise.
Ideally I would not like to install a boiler since it would mean replacing a lot of pipework and repositioning it in the loft etc etc. and we really want a rayburn/aga stove anyway so it might as well do everything.
Does anyone have any experience or opinions that might help with this dilemma?
Thanks
Keldin
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I really wonder how the new regs will work without plunging the housing market into recession. It is possible that the new laws will be better interpretted. Or how will a listed building be sold if they cannot change the windows, roof, heating etc. I personally would not worry about it. These laws would put Rayburn/Aga out of buiness......
Anyway consider this.. ALPHA cookers I have one and I would put it up against any Aga or Rayburn. They use efficient pressure jet burners but are bigger than an AGA. They cook, heat the house and do hot water. The running costs are good and they work fabulous. Just a thought. Like I said I have no idea what rating they are, but I won't be throwing it out.NO to pasty tax We won!!!! Just shows that people power works! Don't be apathetic to your cause!0 -
Did you actually check on the Rayburn web site
http://www.aga-rayburn.co.uk/435.htm
They are compliant now!The quicker you fall behind, the longer you have to catch up...0
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