Age Addition In Ib Disqualifies For Is

snoop2008

hey can someone please explain if this is true.
I just spoke to the benefits helpline.

He worked out that because I get the 8.60 in IB, I cannot claim the DISABILITY PREMUIM IN INCOME SUPPORT which is about £25.00. I read some where on a webbenefits site that if you have been on long term IB for a year, myself now 4 years, I could claim this. Although there was no mention of age addition affecting claiming disability premuim in income support.

The man said due to me having the age addition, my income for IB is higher than IS so because of this I cannot claim the £25 disability premuim!!!

would like some advice on this please, anyone:mad:

healy

Yes this is correct, 'the amount the law says you need to live on' is exceeded on IB with the age addition so therefore you are not entiltled to Income Support.

Benefits_Blagger

i think the advice is correct, but what would you prefer IB what pays more, or IS with disability premium which pays less.

best way to look at IB and IS is that they are the equivalent of contributions based JSA and income based JSA respectively.

except the difference between JSA and IB/IS, is that JSA is paid at the same rate regardless if you have paid NI contributions or not, whereas for IB there is some reward, although there is some downsides IB.

make sure you claim your DLA, you will be entitled to the lowest rate at least, although be prepared for your claimed to be initally turned down (this is standard) but it will be awarded on appeal.

if your getting HB, make sure your housing benefit include the disability premium in your HB award, otherwise they will make you pay an extra £25 towards your rent.

dmg24

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

make sure you claim your DLA, you will be entitled to the lowest rate at least, although be prepared for your claimed to be initally turned down (this is standard) but it will be awarded on appeal.

Not necessarily, IB does not automatically qualify you for DLA.

IB is awarded due to being unable to work, DLA is awarded based on how your health condition affects your everyday life (and is available to those in work also).

Also, it is not standard for a claim for DLA to be turned town, however if you do get turned down it may be worth appealing.

Benefits_Blagger

dmg24 wrote: »

Not necessarily, IB does not automatically qualify you for DLA.

IB is awarded due to being unable to work, DLA is awarded based on how your health condition affects your everyday life (and is available to those in work also).

Also, it is not standard for a claim for DLA to be turned town, however if you do get turned down it may be worth appealing.

I never said it did automatically qualify you, but the conditions for being eligble for the lowest care component are pretty lax. everyone i know on incap, have a) been awarded at least this and b) were all turned down first time.

in the world of benefits there is how things should work and how they do work, im just relating how they do work.

if when i was applying for my benefits, if i had just accepted what the system told me, i wouldnt have all the benefits i now have.

dmg24

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

I never said it did automatically qualify you, but the conditions for being eligble for the lowest care component are pretty lax. everyone i know on incap, have a) been awarded at least this and b) were all turned down first time.

in the world of benefits there is how things should work and how they do work, im just relating how they do work.

if when i was applying for my benefits, if i had just accepted what the system told me, i wouldnt have all the benefits i now have.

You are recounting your own experience, however this is not the case for everyone, so you should not generalise.

Some people on IB will never qualify for DLA, even if they appeal, because they do not fit the required criteria.

seven-day-weekend

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

I never said it did automatically qualify you, but the conditions for being eligble for the lowest care component are pretty lax. everyone i know on incap, have a) been awarded at least this and b) were all turned down first time.

in the world of benefits there is how things should work and how they do work, im just relating how they do work.

if when i was applying for my benefits, if i had just accepted what the system told me, i wouldnt have all the benefits i now have.

My husband has been on IB since 2004 and does not qualify for DLA. He is capable of looking after himself and is able to walk.

Benefits_Blagger

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

My husband has been on IB since 2004 and does not qualify for DLA. He is capable of looking after himself and is able to walk.

doesnt matter if your husband can walk or not.

one of the qualifying criteria for the lowest component of DLA, "is being unable to make a meal for themselves"

I have depression and take medication for it, this medication affects me and as such i am a risk using a cooker in my house in case there is a accident, thus i get the lowest care allowance rate so i can afford to eat out and not have to cook for myself.

seven-day-weekend

I'm not disputing that some people with depression qualify for DLA. I'm just pointing out that it is misleading to say that everyone on IB does!

tigtag02

Benefits_Blagger wrote: »

doesnt matter if your husband can walk or not.

one of the qualifying criteria for the lowest component of DLA, "is being unable to make a meal for themselves"

I have depression and take medication for it, this medication affects me and as such i am a risk using a cooker in my house in case there is a accident, thus i get the lowest care allowance rate so i can afford to eat out and not have to cook for myself.

Hmmmmm, your username, signature and general belief that you know the system inside out really dont show you in a good light Im afraid.

I do think that your *advice* should be taken with a pinch of salt!

snoop2008

Hey guys thanks, its hard to get the right info!!! according the section below it does not mention anything about age addition and I do get the low rate DLA for mobility and care. it seems premiums are paid in income support only when a client is paid the middle or higher rate. As for being better off on Ib , I do feel IS the benefits are much higher. just about £4.00 difference with Ib means I pay some rent and poll tax, no premiums because I have the low rate DLA!!

So at the end of the day I pay about £6.00 rent and £5.00 CTax. £11 from my £86. I think IS is something like £84. with disability premium.

Disability premium

Disability premium will be included in your applicable amount if you and your partner are aged less than 60 and: [HB sch 3 (12) &(13) CTB sch 1(12)&(13)]

• either of you is registered blind
• or either of you gets one of the qualifying benefits listed below
• or has been off sick for 52 weeks or more.

In this last case it must be the person who is claiming the HB/CTB who is off sick.
Qualifying benefits

You will get the disability premium if you or your partner get any of the following benefits:

• Disability Living Allowance
• or Disabled Person’s Tax Credit
• or Attendance Allowance
• or Constant Attendance Allowance
• or payment through the Invalid Vehicle Scheme
• or war pensioners’ mobility supplement
• or Severe Disablement Allowance
• or Incapacity Benefit – long term rate or short term higher rate paid at the long term rate.

These are known as qualifying benefits because they qualify you for the disability premium.

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/advisers/rr2/working/05.asp#aa22

cheers soop!!!!!!!!