Is my immersion heater kaput?

Hi, my hot water tank took a very long time heating up water the other day (about 3 hours to get lukewarm), and now has stopped heating up the water altogether. The tank and immersion were only installed 6 months ago (Can I find a warranty or guarantee or receipt - no!). There have been a couple ofoccasions where I have forgotten about the heater being on and it has been on continuously for 2 days - would this have caused the immersion to burn out?

How much would be a fair price for a plumber replacing the immersion? Thanks in advance for any advice!
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  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,704 Forumite
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    First, it should last years, not 6 months. Leaving it on will not cause it to burn out.

    Is there a reset button ? Turn off the power, remove the cover where the wire goes in, there should be a thermostat in there and also possibly a tiny red reset button on the thermostat.

    Otherwise I would complain strongly to the original installer.

    If you need to pay to replace, I would get an electrician rather than a plumber.
  • amarg
    amarg Posts: 216 Forumite
    Firstly I would check the fuse is ok, there could be two fuses- one at the consumer unit and one in a fused connection unit (if there is one).


    As already pointed out an immersion heater element should last years.

    These pages might help
    testing a fuse

    http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/plumb_immersion_heater.htm



    If the immersion heater is broken then replacing it is difficult and is a job for a plumber. Removing the old immersion heater element can be extremely difficult.

  • If you need to pay to replace, I would get an electrician rather than a plumber.

    i wouldnt, as it cant be changed without draining down.

    cost of a new one is less than £20 getting it changed isnt hard just can take some time. if you decide to call a plumber. drain the system down first, that'll save a few quid off his bill as he wont be getting paid to sit and wait for it to drain!
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi

    If you heat your water by immersion alone and the new immersion was a standard copper one (say £20),then it is possible that the element has failed.
    As the water heated to luke warm then stopped I would suspect the element as if it were to be a fuse or over heat stat tripping ,it would stop heating immediately.

    Buy a Incaloy or Titanium immersion and it will last longer.
    You could buy yourself an immersion spanner and DIY, six months old , it should come out easily.

    Corgi Guy.

    PS Is the switch burning out?
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • baldelectrician
    baldelectrician Posts: 2,467 Forumite
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    Get an electrician in.

    It may be one of these new fangled immersion heaters that have a built in thermostat AND a over limit thermostat.

    It is quite common for these to give problems.

    The other thing could be faulty / poor / loose connections, this is why I am suggesting an electrician. It unlikely to be a faulty eliment after 6 months.

    Only the newer immersion heaters have these over limit cut outs (and new thermostats)
    baldly going on...
  • JoJoB
    JoJoB Posts: 2,080 Forumite
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    Thanks for all the replies, I will get a plumber round next week by the looks of things. The lighting is poor by the tank so I will check tomorrow if there is an override button on the thermostat. The immersion is a heatrae pullin I think - tbh, the thermostat looks very confusing to me. Are there not supposed to be numbers on it so i know what temperature it is set to? It just has a + and - sign and an arrow which can be pointed to either which is fully turned to the + sign at the moment. Didn't notice a button to press on it but will check tomorrow.
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  • leftfield20
    leftfield20 Posts: 120 Forumite
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    Look carefully near the + and - as you say the light is not good so you could be missing some numbers (in °C) that range form say 40 to 80. Mine is (i think) set at 50. Perhaps yours is too high and is tripping before its heating (as others have said).
  • JoJoB wrote: »
    I will get a plumber round next week by the looks of things.
    I would still suggest an electrician
    An electricain should be able to use a ohm / Meg ohm meter to check if the element is intact and if it is burst, in about 5 minutes

    Or you could a plumber who could take up to 2 hours to drain down the tank to SEE if the element is faulty :D
    You should use a competent person for the work, links below
    In Scotland:
    Individuals regitered;
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/ListAC.asp
    Companies
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/SearchCo.asp?T=Construction&ID=2
    In England and Wales:
    http://www.competentperson.co.uk
    baldly going on...
  • JoJoB
    JoJoB Posts: 2,080 Forumite
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    Ok then. :D

    Electrician it is!
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  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Or you could a plumber who could take up to 2 hours to drain down the tank to SEE if the element is faulty :D

    Good morning: Or a plumber who has electrical qualifications and can conduct appropriate tests without a drain-down eg. my OH:D Visit http://www.trustcorgi.com/findinstaller/findaninstaller.htmx for more info

    HTH

    Canucklehead
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
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