scouts insurance

minimacka

Morning everyone
My son goes to scouts which he absolutely loves and I think that it gives him lots of experiance that he wouldnt normally get, i.e making your own lunch on the campfire, putting a tent up, you get my gist. We only pay £7 a month which I think is also brilliant. On Friday he came home with an insurance letter that he has to pay yearly for and its £27.50 now i dont mind paying this at all (really dont) but I just wondered how much everyone else pays. i.e. is the cost up to the area or is it a national cost. I know from previous posts on here that the monthly cost vary but I wondered about the insurance cost.

tamarto

My son is in the cubs, he pays £2 a week/session which covers all the costs hths

djtonyb

I run a brownie pack. Our subs are £17.50/term. This includes our annual census fee this year the census for our region was £22/person.

The census fee covers insurance, girl guiding running costs, regional costs but does not cover rent, general running costs, badges etc. These are covered from the remaining money from subs.

minimacka

Thank you for your replys, the insurance does seem a bit steep when you read what you pay. Not that I would stop him going but I didnt wonder why the insurance was so much.

djtonyb

Our Census varies from Region to Region.

Some regions don't have regional headquarters or guide centres to run therefore their census will be lower.

It all depends on what regional facilities have to be covered.

morg_monster

FYI I'm a brown owl too and this year our "census" was £16 per member (so that is the same for the girls and for adult members like me and djtonyb). I believe the "central" amount set by Guiding this year was £15. Don't you hate writing out that cheque every year...

Just wanted to point out, this might not be just a cost for insurance. our census covers (as well as insurance for girls and leaders), development and carrying out training for volunteers, production of books and other resources, and subsidises other stuff. EG this year the census was quite a lot because they are gearing up for the Centenary celebrations of Guiding in 2009.
But then Scouts seem to do more exciting (ie dangerous!) activities, especially the older age groups, so maybe your insurance is that much

Benny24

Each group of scouts deals with 'capitation' (that's the insurance you're talking about) in a different way. Capitation is payable to Scout HQ for every member of the association, it is around £31 per person, payable in January. The amount can vary a little by region as it is a National and County fee. Each group has to submit it's census numbers and pay for those counted.

On top of the captiation fee Scout groups also have to pay for the upkeep of their premises, rent, council tax, utilities etc...

Some groups spend time fundraising through the year, to help off-set the total cost of capitation to you the parent.

Some groups put the weekly subs you pay into the capitation pot first, and when that's full, the continuing subs you pay each week/month goes towards the running of the group itself.

Other gropus ask the parents to pay either the whole/part (depending how much they've managed to fundraise!) of the capitation fee up front at the begining of the scout year.
This may well be done by less finacially stable groups/newly set up groups, who don't have the intial capital to pay the bill straight off when capitation is due.
This avenue also ensures a proportion of the scouts capitation is paid for, for the year, wether or not the scout remains for the year.

All in all I think it's a good deal, especially as it gets your youngsters off your hands for an evening, and the odd weekend during the year, and they have a fantastic time doing it!

Cheaper than child minding fee's too!

Hope this helps.

julianashcroft

In my Scout Group, the youth members pay a termly subscription, which is currently £22.00. This brings in £66.00 a year. Out of this we have to pay the Scout Association around £25.00 per head in capitation , so we are left with £41.00 to provide a years worth of Scout Meetings.

The capitation that goes to the Scout Association, covers the cost of Insurance, Leader Training, full time staff that work at headquarters and a host of other things. A small part of the Capitation stays local to help pay for running the local organisation.

Lickul_miss

Hi, my son just joined cubs 3weeks ago and i too recived this (my other son joined the scouts same week) i also got this letter asking for £25 each!!!! for insurance im gutted its going to cost me £50 my eldest said he would stop going if it helped bless him..... i then get a letter from brownies where my little girl goes an it says that their insurance fee is also due....£15 but then goes on to say " so as you can imagine £15 each brownie is quite expensive for us so we will be holding a coffee evening where there will be handmade cards for sale a tombola stall homemade cakes and a raffle of which we have sent the girls home with tickets we would be very grateful for ur support" i thought how lovely if only the cubs/scouts could do summit like this??? after i picked my boys up this week i asked the scout leader if i could pay weekly to which the reply was "theres only 3 weeks left till it has to be payed!" as im leaving i notice a sign on the door (didnt take much notice as i was listening to what they'd bin doing lol) but it said summit about them needing our support 4 raising money 4 summit must take a propper look next time....i have bin looking at the hamper thread tho so will definatly be helping the brownies raise the funds and i'll just have to hold my tongue with the cubs

jodie

I run a Beaver scout group and our fees which are set by the group for all sections is £40 for Jan term, then £30 the other 2 terms.

tbs624

£105 per year all in, payable in termly instalments and worth every penny.:DScouting and Guiding offer fantastic opportunities and brilliant value for money. Even if your Group only meets in school terms, ie 39 weeks that works out way below the cost of other comparable activities for children.

Please don't moan at your Group's Leaders - they're all trained volunteers who put an awful lot of time and effort in. Why not ask them how the Group is funded - eg, some Groups have their own buildings with all the associated costs and some have to pay rent to others to use their premises in addition to the Cap fees that have been mentioned. In the past many Groups' running costs have been heavily subisdised by the fundraising done by a dwindling number of enthusiastic supporters, so that subs were kept artificially low.How about offering some support for the Group....paint that hall, help out at a Meeting one evening, even run a fundraising event yourself?