Does an MSc override 2:1 in job specs?

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punkrockprincess wrote: »

I am thinking of going on for an Msc, after I get my Masters Degree. What will my second Master's be worth? Is an MSc not that good? coz our uni was bigging them up no end.

They big them up because they charge lots and lots in course fees yet they're relatively cheap to run... good cash cows

If you've done a 4 year degree with masters, i'm not sure why you'd then do another MSc unless you wanted to have a change of direction.

I did mine because i wanted to go from Genetics to Computer Science.. it certainly did help as I got a job doing computational genetics once i'd finished

celyn90

antuk wrote: »

Does that work? I thought they would only look at the ones first time round? Seems a bit stupid that you graduate and then have to do another a level to get a grad job!!

If they just ask for points (which most of them do) it works fine, even if they ask for dates it is often regarded as indicative of a wish to continue developing proffessionally (!). I have an extra A-level taken later because my mum wanted to study but wouldn't go on her own - I include that in my UCAS points if i'm asked as I still hold the qualification, even though I was a year older than I should have been when I took it.

Cardelia

gracie83 wrote: »

For my first degree I only managed to achieve a 2:2 which has made applying for graduate positions very difficult as everyone wants a 2:1. However I now have an MSc. Does anyone know if the MSc qualification allows me to apply for positions requiring a 2:1 degree?

It very much depends on what you want to do. Some places will value postgraduate experience much more than your undergraduate degree classification, others won't.

It also depends on where you did your undergraduate degree. If it was at a "traditional" university then many employers will look at you more favourably than if you got a 2:1 at an ex-poly.

I'm in a similar position to you (except I have a PhD as well as a masters) and I've found that the best policy is to omit your degree classification, unless specifically asked.

djhworld

That's the problem with the elitist employers, most of them graduated from Oxbridge and only employ those who come from there, regardless of the result. While those who achieved an place at Oxbridge are very talented individuals, it doesn't mean the only pool of talent will come from there, heck some of the most talented people I know graduated from an "ex-poly" and a "traditional" institution.

Earlier this year I was contemplating doing a Masters degree, but then I found out the course was nearing £5,000 for the year and the prospect seemed a little less exciting. A teacher from my old sixth form college advised me against it as well, he said there's more mileage in getting work experience behind your belt after you graduate then getting a Masters degree.

A Masters would be more appropriate when you've had a few years on a job and just want to get back into education to further your career.

The_One_Who

djhworld wrote: »

That's the problem with the elitist employers, most of them graduated from Oxbridge and only employ those who come from there, regardless of the result. While those who achieved an place at Oxbridge are very talented individuals, it doesn't mean the only pool of talent will come from there, heck some of the most talented people I know graduated from an "ex-poly" and a "traditional" institution.

Unless you are going in to investment banking, that statement is simply not true. Even then, it's not really.

celyn90

djhworld wrote: »

That's the problem with the elitist employers, most of them graduated from Oxbridge and only employ those who come from there, regardless of the result. While those who achieved an place at Oxbridge are very talented individuals, it doesn't mean the only pool of talent will come from there, heck some of the most talented people I know graduated from an "ex-poly" and a "traditional" institution.

In my experience, most employers want as large a pool of talent as they can gain access to; even the investment banks and large consultancy firms often have their open days and recruitment fairs all across the country. Who they take is down to how well your perform in their tests and interviews and whilst I'm aware that a good degree for a good University regardless of where it is is an excellent way to gain an interview, it doesn't mean you will do well in that interview or be the candiadate they are looking for. A lot of large firms do have links with specific universities but this isn't restricted to Oxbridge.

JohnDep_2

I am doing a 4 year Mchem. But the problem is so are 75% of chemists now.

After that I might to a Msc or a transfer course so something diferent t round me off.


I think employer seem to go to much on qualifications over personality, and work ethic. I have seem it happen in my summer job... new MEng grad... useless in the workplace!