Primark

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

IvanOpinion wrote: »

How do you know they didn't just show you what they wanted you to see on your visit? What actions are you taking to guarantee that the stuff you sell is ethically sourced? While you might be able to say that the conditions you saw people working in was acceptable how do you guarantee the conditions of the farmers and those producing the materials or even building the factories or those working on the transport ships? How do you know they are not being exploited? How do you know they are being paid a 'decent wage' or the make up of that wage? Also what gives you the right to determine it is 'decent' and not exploitative?

There is no way that any company (or individual) can guarantee all the above. What they can put in place is a set of standards, procedures and checks that they can measure against ... they can never 'guarantee' them though. Third world factories have a habit of showing you what they want you to see (I have been there)... it is when you scrape away the 'icing' that you see the real coditions .. to do that you need to follow the entire supply chain.

For many years now it has not been the cost of material that has dictated the price of clothing it has been the cost of labour in assembly. That is why the UK is finding it harder to compete .. that is why there are still back street sweat shops in the UK.

ivan

point taken but you try your best to ensure good practice wages etc the ones selling for peanuts do not they do not care where it come from they send there rep who is put in hotel he only asks the price and its always for the big ones to much .

roddydogs

I think you should have a word with Tonto

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

Thats abit rough.

tigtag02

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote: »

never said that , but the chances are the ones giving them away fro quids is the one with very low standards ,

On what basis do you make that sweeping statement?

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote: »

as with food cheap means some thing or one is suffering for people to have dirt cheap

eh?

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

tigtag02 wrote: »

On what basis do you make that sweeping statement? you do not get nothing for nothing if it is dirt cheap some one is getting a raw deal if you do not believe that them you are stupid



eh?

cheap food means animals are suffering to produce it.

tamarto

THE_LONE_RANGER wrote: »

cheap food means animals are suffering to produce it.

Animals produce baked beans :eek:

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

cheap meat ie food comes from intensive farming, J oliver goes ON ABOUT CHICKENS BUT CATTLE CALFS PIGS GEESE DUCKS ALL INTENSIVLY farmed in europe and sold to british public cheap in super markets , as for the baked beans post unless you sit around with your head up ur arss you knew what i meant.

hollydays

and breathe...

Pennylane

I would rather buy QUALITY clothes from a charity shop than buy stuff at Primark. I DETEST seeing it all thrown on the floor, trailing off hangers with footprints and seams coming undone. :eek: I know that's the fault of the customers and not the store itself but it doesn't make for a pleasant shopping experience.

Son sometimes buys T shirts for doing mucky jobs and if he wears them once or twice that's all he expects.

IvanOpinion

Pennylane wrote: »

I would rather buy QUALITY clothes from a charity shop than buy stuff at Primark.

I think your definition of 'quality' may be misplaced ... primark has won several awards in relation to quality over some of the other (so called) 'quality' stores. I was sub-contracted to a clothing importer for a while and basically big boxes of clothes arrived in .. some were immediately repacked into smaller boxes and sent out to Shop A ... others had the labels cut off (the ones inside at the collar) and replaced with new labels, repacked and sent to shop B .. the only difference was that shop A sold for about £10-15 whereas Shop B was selling exactly the same garments for about £70 (albeit they had a different label stuck on the inside).

Ivan