Help again please!! HDD not booting up

ginjim

well i formatted the hdd drive with ultimatebootcd and ried again and istalled NAS but it's still not booting up from the hdd.

installed openfiler today also
took out the cd and upon boot up the HDD is still not booting up
is there a problem with MBR do you think?
qhy is nothnig booting up from the HDD
I believe I have all the settings correct

Am i doing something completely wrong here?
Many thanks

ginjim

tried installing Openfiler everything seemed ok but on tutorial here there wasn't a Boot Loader Configuration option when I installed

Getting really confused here

Please help

bookduck

the boot sector and MBR are often the first to wear out. This is probably not the case, but no guarantees. I assume there is no data on the drives.

The cable and cards (if any) are all seated nicely? You did completely wipe the drive beforehand - no partitions lurking? Your HDD is the first master drive?

First you need to make sure that your drive works, the obvious test is to install DOS or any operating system you know works and you know how to use. This will give you confidence that you drive is working. Boot a few times. This is not foolproof due to sector sizing..

The next is a drive checker. These are usually found on your hdd manufacturer site.

This is one of the requirements "A supported disk controller with data drives attached." but doe snot say what actually is supported?

ginjim

bookduck wrote: »

the boot sector and MBR are often the first to wear out. This is probably not the case, but no guarantees. I assume there is no data on the drives.

The cable and cards (if any) are all seated nicely? You did completely wipe the drive beforehand - no partitions lurking? Your HDD is the first master drive?

First you need to make sure that your drive works, the obvious test is to install DOS or any operating system you know works and you know how to use. This will give you confidence that you drive is working. Boot a few times. This is not foolproof due to sector sizing..

The next is a drive checker. These are usually found on your hdd manufacturer site.

This is one of the requirements "A supported disk controller with data drives attached." but doe snot say what actually is supported?

there is data on the drives because I have tried to install NAS and openfiler


well its a computer that has got xp installed and works jsut fine on the other hdd
i am swapping hdds over
the one i am using now is used

I have had nas and openfiler installed and can see it is on there

upon start up i get a message BOOT DISK FAILURE

thanks

bookduck

it sounds like either it is not the first partition or the partition is not set as bootable system one, or your system might just be even trying to boot of CD drive as it sees that as your first drive.

If there is non of your data on the disk that you wish to keep, on The Ultimate Boot CD there is Active@ KillDisk Free Edition run this (you probably will only need to do the first 2% of your disk in this case) for it to see the disk us wiped and have another go from the beginning

ginjim

cheers thanks

doing it now

i tried fdisk and it said drive 1 had an error on it and i couldnt do anythig apart from reding the contents
couldnt format it or partition it etc etc

ginjim

:mad: right tried kill disk still having problems
have now tried booting te pc up with both hdds

bios doesnt see the old maxtor drive and always starts up with seagate drive
and then BOOT DISK FAILURE:mad:

If i remove the new hdd then win xp starts up fine and the bios recognises the maxtor drive

fwor

Just a thought - have you checked the drive jumpers again carefully?

Some older Seagate drives have an odd arrangement where if the jumper is put in the "spare jumper" position, it will act as a "single drive" and won't like another HDD on the same cable.

bookduck

Some Ide manufacturers will not work with other manufacturers conor drives always seemed to play up with other brands. Make sure you only have one drive. seen it a few times where drive works but if you put a cd drive on the 2nd ide port (no, i do not mean the same cable) then it stops them both from working.

Try typing "fdisk /mbr" might have to be "fdisk c: /mbr"

The ultimate boot disk has a shed loads of disk diags on it

This drive is not under warranty is it?

ginjim

thanks
the drive i got is new only arrived friday
its a seagate 500gb ide drive
the pc sees it and have found out thats I have actually partitioned it with openfiler
(the pc i am trying to install it on ses it as a 500gb hdd) second comp i tried it one saw it as 137gb hdd(this is the size that i partitioned it to)
everything seems to be going on there but can not actually boot from it
i have tried to format it but i got drive error 1(whatever that is)

trying many things

it is so frustrating
thanks for the help guys

bookduck

ginjim wrote: »

thanks
...ses it as a 500gb hdd) second comp i tried it one saw it as 137gb hdd(this is the size that i partitioned it to)

Let me get this right, it is a 500GB drive but the PC sees it as a 137GB..... Two words - BIOS UPGRADE.