Music Licence

freya18th

I work in a charity shop and we play Cd's. Someone as told us that we need a Music Licence or risk being find.Is this so and does this include using a radio.

shellsuit

Yes and Yes I'm afraid.

GiveItBack

i believe it's basically if customers can hear it? ie if it's not an individual listening to it.

masterthief

shellsuit is, to the best of my knowledge completely right. however, while I don't want to tell you to break the law, I should point out that the risk of being caught and fined for this is extremely low, and most law enforcement officials would, likely, turn a blind eye.

I'm only saying this from my own experience as a musician working in many clubs, pubs, bars, etc - quite a lot of them didn't have music licenses (for live and/pr for jukeboxes) and I've never known any of them to be fined, despite the police and other officials coming the premises on several occasions for unrelated matters. And the fact that you work in a charity means you're even less likely than they are to be 'prosecuted' (in whatever sense). As far as I know/have experiened, officials are much tighter on the regulations surrounding the live performance of music than CD players, radios and the like, due to it having a bigger effect on health and safety and the like. But even with live music I've only known one place get fined for not having a license, and they were a pretty prominent live music venue, so they obviously attracted a lot of attention to themselve in this regard.

But I am only saying this from my personal experience, so take it with a pinch of salt and evaluate the risk for yourself.

hth

Sarahjovi

You need a Premise Licence.

What is a premises licence?

What is a premises licence for?
A premises licence authorises the premises in question to carry out licensable activities. Almost any business that does one or more of these three activities will need a premises licence.
Where the sale or supply of alcohol is one of the activities you carry out at your premises, you will also need at least one personal licence – holder. One of whom must be named on the premises licence and is known as the Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS).
What are the licensable activities?

• Sale or supply of alcohol
• Provision of regulated entertainment
• Provision of late night refreshment (that is the sale of hot food or drink at any time between 11pm and 5am)

What is regulated entertainment?
Regulated entertainment is entertainment provided in the presence of an audience, for the purpose of entertaining that audience. For example:

• The performance of a play
• The exhibition of a film
• An indoor sporting event
• Boxing or wrestling
• A performance of live music
• Any playing of recorded music
• A performance of dance
• Entertainment of a similar description (such as a circus)

It also includes the provision of entertainment facilities, that is facilities used for:

• Making music (for example a karaoke machine)
• Dancing (for example a dance floor)
• Entertainment of a similar description

How long is a premises licence valid?
A premises licence has effect until the licence is revoked, suspended or surrendered. This means it is not time-limited (unless the applicant specifically requests this for example for a music festival).

I've also found this... on another website

Consent for regulated entertainment is not needed when the entertainment is provided for background entertainment. This is sometimes a difficult area and if you are unsure you should contact us for advice. Examples of 'incidental' entertainment are:

• a supermarket playing background music (people go there to shop - the music is not an influencing factor)

It may be worth your while looking up "Premise Licence" on your local council website, or give the licencing office a quick ring to confirm if you really need one.

Sarah:D

donteatthat

have a look at this:

http://www.mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk/playingbroadcastingonline/music_for_businesses/Pages/default.aspx

I think you will find that you need the licence if anyone other than 1 person can hear it.

lamb7994

Yes you need a licence if more than one person can listen to it.
It includes cds and radio.
The charity shop i manage has recently been fined and now can't have music on as the licence is expensive. A customer reported us to the council for it who in turn visited us and then arranged for us to be fined.
You might also get phone calls asking if you play any music or radio in the shop from prs.
i think it's about £300 per shop.

James

vyseyboy

What sort of "upstanding citezen" reports a charity shop for such a menial microcrime?

lamb7994

vyseyboy wrote: »

What sort of "upstanding citezen" reports a charity shop for such a menial microcrime?

A customer with the nick-name of Victor Meldrew. He comes in measuring trousers to make sure we have the right sizes on the label.
He is constantly phoning the HQ to complain about something.

Well until we banned him yesterday for his complaining.


James

stiffnuts69

Ok I will try and help

You defintely do not require a premises licence (I work in licensing/trading standards).

You technically need a licence from PRS and/or PPL.

I know some of the investigators who work for these PRS / PPL and they are not interested in going in a charity shop to try and make you get a licence.
http://www.ppluk.com/
http://www.mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk/p...s/default.aspx


If and I say if (it is very highly unlikely) they come into your premises then the worst that will happen is that they will ask you to get the correct licence.

Do not lose any sleep over it, you will be fine.

eyelinerprincess

lamb7994 wrote: »

A customer with the nick-name of Victor Meldrew. He comes in measuring trousers to make sure we have the right sizes on the label.
He is constantly phoning the HQ to complain about something.

Well until we banned him yesterday for his complaining.


James

Lol, sounds like someone we had in our shop. He wanted a specific size of spanner, we found one, and he measured it and stated it wasn't EXACTLY the size he wanted...