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Oak Legal Services LBC

MrTottenham123
MrTottenham123 Posts: 80 Forumite
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Good Morning All,

I’m back once again but this time I’ve received an LBC from Oak Legal Services which from reading on the forum sound like another scamming company!


Context:


Received a parking ticket whilst watching a friend play football which never used to have parking charges.

1) No signs upon entering the facility to advise of T&C’s, before you drive down a long road to enter the main car park.

2) There is a camera as you drive in which I don’t know if it’s an ANPR but there is no mention of this on the letter or photos of my vehicle to confirm. This will be something I will focus on later down the line once I found out, because it’s at the start of the drive in down the long road, so there should be signs at the entrance to advise but there isn’t.


3) The only signage seen near the entrance is a bit of laminated paper, stuck on with some black tape. (Very professional and who can even read this when they’re driving a right hand steering car lol)


4) I have complained to the clubhouse as ultimately I just had to put my reg into a tablet to confirm my attendance, which is also new that I didn't know about. But they have advised me I have to take it up with the parking company directly, but they have provided me with an email confirming my attendance on the day of the match once I provided them with specific details only they or the team would know.

Thankfully I’m familiar with the process now since my last matter with Moorside so I shouldn’t need much help with the steps from the Newbie thread, but just wanted to create a new thread so I can update others on my progress.


Email sent to acknowledge the LBC, now we wait.

Pictures attached for reference.

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Camera can be seen in the back of this picture with the box underneath it. Looks to be just a normal camera maybe?

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  • patient_dream
    patient_dream Posts: 4,521 Forumite
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    As you can see, OAK is a trading name of ZZPS, the infamous debt collector run by OSNER famous fot adding FAKE amounts such as the £70

    As such OAK are misleading you and a court with a FAKE claim which is DOUBLE RECOVERY and not allowed by the courts.

    If OAK actually take you to court they will no doubt be spanked for a fake double recovery claim and … award you costs

    And interest @8% .. most judges will not allow this

    What excuse will OAK MAKE for a fake double recovery claim

  • OldBugger
    OldBugger Posts: 31 Forumite
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    So there are no signs anywhere except the one stating that the car park is operated by Londoneast-uk?

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    Yet in the LBC it states the parking charge is due to one parking solution ltd.

    By the looks of it it will be an easy win on so many counts.

  • MrJenkinsEsq
    MrJenkinsEsq Posts: 107 Forumite
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    Your VRM is visible in the body of the letter.

    I'm a random person on the internet. I hold no legal qualifications and nothing I say is advice.

  • MrTottenham123
    MrTottenham123 Posts: 80 Forumite
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    edited 2 September at 3:07PM

    good point, I’ve not actually been back into the car park since but I assume there will be signs for One Parking in the actual car park itself, but upon entry onto the site there are no signs and it’s a good 100/200 metre drive before you then reach the car park, along with the camera that you can see in the last photo (not 100% if it’s a standard camera or ANPR)

    Im not sure what the rules are, but I thought they had to show clear signs and the T&C’s before I enter the site in it’s entirely, not once I’m already in and driving down the long road to the car park. I could be wrong and if so, then that’s my fault.

    But the only sign upon entry to the site in question is that small paper one lol

    I’ll make a trip back down there this weekend and get some photos of any other signs I can find

  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 15,776 Forumite
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    Study the relevant Code of Practice to see what the signage requirements are

  • OldBugger
    OldBugger Posts: 31 Forumite
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    edited 2 September at 4:53PM

    You'll find that here, page 29 where it states…

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    That's a fail already. The entrance sign is displayed by the land owner not the operator.

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    And the second fail. b) there is no referal to terms and conditions or additional signage.

  • Car1980
    Car1980 Posts: 3,480 Forumite
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    Entrance signage makes no reference to T&Cs or anything contractual anyway. All it says is "entering this land will make you a trespasser". Thus only the landowner can sue and for peppercorn damages at most. Not that his home made sign would even be prominent enough anyway.

  • thanks so much for the assistance!

    Other than the laminated ‘sign’ there’s just advertisement boards at the front of the property and nothing else. I don’t live far from the area so I’m going to pop down there to see if any new signage or anything has changed since.

    Will have a look at their T&C’s now and put together a complaint email.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 165,211 Forumite
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    I wrote your complaint email, above, word for word.

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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