We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
Problem changing Euro cylinder
After some advice please.
I am in the process of upgrading the cylinder locks on a pair of French doors to 3* Euro cylinders.
The lock on the master door is already done without problem I then went on to gain acces to the slave door lock so I took off the strike plate assembly and removed the mullion moulding to get at the screw holding in the lock cylinder only to be confronted with this.
The screw is solid - can't shift it so tried a liberal application of WD40 but no good. I have put everything back for the time being so the doors are
secure with one original cylinder and one new one.
So where do I go from here? If I try drilling the screw out it won't help because I still can't gain access to remove the threaded section from the cylinder and I am conscious of the fact that if I damage the upvc frame where the screw passes through it I wont be able to secure the new lock cylinder—Help
Comments
-
Have you tried removing the handles on the slave side? That might give you a narrow access down the side of the cylinder to the point where the threaded section enters the cylinder. You could then spray directly into there using the fine nozzle on the WD40.
The knackered screw head is tricky. I’ve never had much success with screw removers. I’ve used a Dremel to cut a slot in the head and removed with a slotted screwdriver, but I appreciate a Dremel isn’t something everyone has.
2 -
Thanks, cutting a slot might be a good option, I have already removed the handles in order to get the WD40 closer to the cylinder but so far it has not helped.
The reason for changing the cylinder is partly to protect against lock snapping so it occured to me that perhaps if I snap the lock it may allow me to remove the cylinder, I think that is probably a 'last resort' option plus I am not really sure how you snap a lock
0 -
I usually drill a small (1.5-2mm) hole in the center or the screw head, then hammer a new hard Philips screwdriver bit into the softer screw head. Hard means traditional matt grey bit, not these new softer 'impact' ones.
3 -
I used this set for the same issue.
I used a drill to make the top of the screw a bit rough then used the extractor end on the easy out set. Worked a treat.
Moneysaver
1 -
I'd go with grumpy_codger's method as the extractors are expensive if only one screw needs doing. But I'd normally use a Torx or Robertson bit as I find these easier to hammer into a round hole than a Phillips bit. Also because those bits often come in the assortment packs and generally don't get used so much (or get damaged) in the way Phillips/Pozi ones do, so I have a collection of spares in a box just waiting to be abused.
2 -
I thought £8 was worth it & it is also another tool that might come in useful. If the other method works fair enough.
Moneysaver
0 -
Do you have photo of the handle/cylinder of the lock in place ?
On my double door I can change the cylinder without disassembly as there was already a hole drilled through to the barrel screw.
Are you sure that screw is for the cylinder that's why I asked for a wider photo.
1 -
If you can get the handle off lock snapping is so easy it will scare you, takes seconds with a mole wrench and then you should be able to remove everything.
Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.2 -
Please. Do yourself a favour and throw the darned things in the bin. Should (or rather, when) you snap one trying to get a screw or stud/bolt out, your only recourse is spark erosion.
Have seen it done so many times by hamfisted "mechanics" on engines.
The screw holding a euro-cylinder in place shouldn't be so tight that the head gets chewed up. The other thing to remember with cross head screws is there are two types - Phillips and Pozidrive. It is important that you use the correct screwdriver and the right size or you run the risk of the bit "camming out" and chewing up the head. If this happens, carefully grinding a slot in the head and using an impact driver with a flat bit (well fitting in the new slot) may get the screw out. If that doesn't work, time to call in an expert such as a Window Doctor.Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
Erik Aronesty, 2014
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.3 -
I have an extractor set, and have never used it successfully for that reason - I daren't apply the required force in case it snaps. 😳
1
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 355.6K Banking & Borrowing
- 254.8K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 456.1K Spending & Discounts
- 248.2K Work, Benefits & Business
- 605.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 179K Life & Family
- 263.5K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards