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Confusion over when Transitional Protection ends, help needed please.

Hello,

I am new to the forum and need a bit of guidance as I feel quite confused and slightly overwhelmed. I apologise for the length of this discussion and if anyone has the time to advise me, I would be extremely grateful.

My query is around Universal Credit and Transitional Protection in particular. For context, I was Managed Moved/Migrated across from Tax Credits; Child and Working Tax Credit in February 2025. At the point I was moved over, my daughter because of her age was considered a non-dependant on my UC claim, so has never been a child on my UC claim, because of her age when we got moved. My daughter gets the Standard Rate of PIP and attends university but lives with me and commutes every day to uni.

When I was moved over, I was given a high Transitional Protection figure over 1K. I asked Universal Credit, the Job Centre and the Citizens Advice, if this was correct, as I was concerned I had been paid too much. It has been checked several times, as due to having a child with a disability on tax credits, they said this was why my TP was high. I asked UC when I first moved over, how they reached the initial Tax Credit and Transitional Protection figure, and they said £766.19 was combined monthly Working and Child tax credits. The advisor at UC said they used the UC Standard Allowance at that time of £393.45 and took this away from my earnings at that time of £903.89; I believe this was the tapered earnings. They then get a figure of £510.44, they then added this to the £766.19 to get a Transitional Protection figure of £1276.63.

Currently, the TP has been eroded, which I understand due to the Standard Rate and Housing Element increases in April. I now receive on UC Standard Allowance £424.90 and Housing £673.86. My TP has eroded to £11971.41 before the earnings taper.

I have been to the Job Centre near to where I live and the advisor said the Transitional Protection will erode through the upratings each year and end once it has reached zero, or if I have changes in circumstance, as far as he knew. As you can imagine, this did not sound very concrete to me and I am getting conflicting advice. Other people are saying, Transitional Protection will keep going until the amount I get on UC equals, or is more than what I get on UC and Transitional Protection combined. Some people are saying you have to add up all the elements and compare to what you had on legacy benefits for it to end. If I did that surely the Standard Allowance £424.90 and Housing £673.86 would be £1098 and higher than what I got on Tax credits of £766.19. Some people are saying add what you get on UC and compare with TP, when it equals, or is more than your TP, it will end. However, this still confuses me, with regards to the many comments and things I have read online about the Transitional Protection being eroded with upratings each year and needing to reach zero, penny for penny. Would it then be whichever came first, legacy benefits, compared with TP on its own, or legacy benefits compared with UC and Transitional Protection.

My other two points, I have a daughter who anticipates moving out in the next year or so. If I were to be on UC at that time, would this end my TP, bearing in mind she has never been a child on my claim. I do tend to get overly advised, and the Citizens Advice Bureau said because she is not a child on my claim, it would not affect my TP. They said it would affect having a three bedroom home, as I rent from a housing association and bedroom tax for two bedrooms would be applied.

My third and final question is, if I were to go into social housing into a smaller house with rent that is less than I pay now, how would this affect my UC, would TP be ended?

Having done the calculation, if UC were to end for me, because of the TP ending, I would not be entitled to any UC at all, as my earnings are outside the range for any help.

I am enormously grateful for this money and I am someone who has been through cancer, has autism and a child with autism managing and working on my own as a single adult, so with the debts I had built up when I had cancer, as you can imagine, receiving this money was a life line. Having said that, I realise this money will reduce over time and eventually disappear. I am just incredibly confused about the information out there. I am just trying to understand when I am likely to lose this money, so I can plan my life around this and potentially move to a smaller place to offset the loss. Understanding this information, will help me to put in place decisions I need to make.

Thank you in advance for your advice.

Comments

  • Jamjam232
    Jamjam232 Posts: 3 Newbie
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    Just to be a bit more concise, I wanted to check the quote I have seen many times on various online benefits platforms.

    On one hand:

    • Your transitional protection payment will continue until your Universal Credit entitlement is the same or more than your previous tax credits, or benefits.

    Compared with various statements online about:

    • The Transitional Protection being eroded with the upratings overtime, and eventually ending once it reduces to zero.
  • NedS
    NedS Posts: 5,334 Ambassador
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    edited 23 May at 3:21PM

    They are both correct.

    Let me give some examples.

    Say for example you have a UC entitlement of £1000/month and a TP element of £500/month giving a total payment of £1500/month

    If inflation were 10%, and your £1000 UC entitlement rose to £1100 due to uprating in April, then your overall UC would stay the same at £1500, but would now comprise £1100 UC and £400 TP. The TP element has been eroded from £500/month to £400/month due to uprating.

    Now lets look at another example for a change in circumstance, based on £1000 UC and £500 TP giving £1500 total. If there were a change in circumstances that caused your base UC entitlement to rise from £1000/month to £1200/month, your TP element would reduce to £300/month keeping your overall UC at £1200 + £300 = £1500/month.

    Once your base UC entitlement increases to £1500/month or more either through uprating and/or change in circumstances, the TP element would disappear as your UC is now more that the legacy benefit amount you were receiving before migration so has served it's purpose.

    Does that help answer your question?

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  • Jamjam232
    Jamjam232 Posts: 3 Newbie
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    Hi NedS,

    Thank you for your kind response.

    I understand about the decrease due to uprating. If I go by what you said in your last paragraph, if I take my own example of the award of £424.90 Standard allowance and £673 Housing this comes to £1097, so more than my tax credits per month of £766 a month. Unless you mean the Standard Allowance compared with tax credits in comparison?

    Sorry to sound so green.

  • kaMelo
    kaMelo Posts: 2,968 Forumite
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    edited 23 May at 5:00PM

    Although it looks like you currently receive more than you used to get on tax credits, UC contains a housing element so you also need to include any housing benefit you used to receive when claiming tax credits when comparing.

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