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Trying to sort out the Miss/Mrs/Ms conundrum.

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  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,917 Ambassador
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    My daughter-in-law has a similar problem. She hasn’t changed her surname in her work or personal life, though is happy to be addressed Mr & Mrs his-surname in joint communications.

    So as a married woman should she now be Mrs maiden-name or Miss maiden-name? Using the latter, people have said to her, “but you’re married” but the former is an oxymoron.

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  • sheramber
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    As long as they are not swearing I don’t really care what title people use.

  • tooldle
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    edited 14 May at 1:37PM

    I also use the title Dr and have never been asked for evidence to ‘prove’ my entitlement. I’m not a medic. What I have experienced however over and over, is my earned title being ignored and the term Mrs being used as a replacement. Oh, that and people assuming my gender.

    Is it possible to change your title via an online account for the entity in question?

  • CuppaTea
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    My understanding is males under 18 are referred to as Master, then Mr over 18 for the rest of their life.

    Females are Miss until marriage and usually Ms if divorced if they don't want to keep their Mrs title.

    To me this is old fashioned and unfair. Why should a women's title change upon marriage when a man's doesn't?

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  • Albermarle
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    To me this is old fashioned and unfair. Why should a women's title change upon marriage when a man's doesn't?

    Because that was the historical norm, as was the same with many things, like the right to vote. Eventually it will change.

  • QrizB
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    Then as Master was rarely used there seemed to be just 1 title for males - Mister.

    When I was at secondary school (and dinosaurs walked the earth) all the pupils were known by their surname. One of my teachers was quite particular with using "miss" and "master".

    Except when it came to my classmate Joe Bates. He was always "mister" 😂

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  • Sapindus
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    edited 15 May at 6:26AM

    I disagree that "Mister" predated "Master". Shakespeare uses Master, not Mister, for men of any age. I also recollect that Mistress/Mrs was an honorific title for a woman of whatever married status who ran her own household or of certain status for example housekeepers were referred to as Mrs. I'm divorced and still use Mrs because I am the mistress of my own household.

  • Spendless
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    There is a title which is both gender and marital status neutral. It is Mx. Ive only ever seen it once in a previous job when I was responsible for name change documents. As Ive only ever seen it written down no idea of pronunciation but guessing sounds similar to 'mix'

    Where are you changing it though, cos I can see on officialdom things like banks they may probe further whereas I doubt your local supermarket loyalty scheme will care.

  • Flugelhorn
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    they don't put it in passports any longer - I am Dr on driving licence as is OH but really he is Mr because he is a surgeon

  • flaneurs_lobster
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    Don't think use of Mx is quite as unusual as your experience suggests, there's a few users among my metropolitan liberal elite acquaintances.

    Random selection of bank account application pages (Lloyds, NatWest, HSBC) all allow Mx as a title.

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