We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Opened credit card dispute long before 120 days, kept getting requests for more info, now denied.

2

Comments

  • Have a look on your bank’s/card provider’s website for their official complaints procedure and follow that if you don’t get any joy on the phone OP.

    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 24,203 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper

    Real person. AI can not fill in forms.

    Wonder if replies are falling foul of security system on file type/size & getting deleted.

    If returning simply due to change of mind, then there is no chargeback.

    Life in the slow lane
  • Okell
    Okell Posts: 3,717 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    edited 11 May at 2:28PM

    @dekaspace1

    As others have said, s75 will only apply in respect of individual items each costing over £100. The total cost of each order is irrelevant. If you have a legal claim against the supplier, s75 makes your credit card provider jointly and severally liable along with the supplier.

    A chargeback is more limited in scope as to what you can claim, for but there is no mimimum limit. (Except the MSE guide on chargeback says claims against Mastercard must have a minimum spend of £10}.

    For each item you have returned you need to identify the reason for the return. For example:

    (1) faulty, damaged or misdescribed goods, or goods not of satisfactory quality, or

    (2) change of mind or cancellation of order under the Consumer Contract (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2031, or

    (3) change of mind return under the seller's own returns policy.

    s75 should cover returns under all 3 headings above if each individual item is over £100, but chargeback will only cover claims under heading (1).

    The dates that are relevant are:

    (a) dates goods ordered

    (b) dates goods received

    © dates goods sent back

    (d) dates returned goods received by the seller

    Do you have proof of returning all the goods?

  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 21,094 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker

    (1) faulty, damaged or misdescribed goods, or goods not of satisfactory quality, or

    (2) change of mind or cancellation of order under the Consumer Contract (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2031, or

    (3) change of mind return under the seller's own returns policy.

    s75 should cover returns under all 3 headings above if each individual item is over £100, but chargeback will only cover claims under heading (1).

    In this case, if the items were returned under (2) and eventually the retailer sent a

    confirmation email they were processing the item and will get a refund when it is finished

    but that refund never actually processed, then does that mean that chargeback would be available for breach of consumer rights / failure to process the refund in an efficient and timely manner?

  • Okell
    Okell Posts: 3,717 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper

    @Grumpy_chap - I don't know.

    AIUI chargeback requires some sort of breach of contract, but not all breaches of contract necessarily lead to a chargeback.

    I don't know if confirming a refund that you never pay would be sufficient

  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 21,094 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 24,203 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper

    Non receipt of refund chargeback requires. Date of refund, Amount of refund & last 4 of card number. Basically a till receipt giving the info, but retailer noting it in a email is enough.

    This is a technical chargeback based on a system failure. Not a retailer simply not refunding.

    Sadly many people think that a retailer not refunding them opens up this chargeback. Without the proof it's a no go.

    Only option is via court.

    Life in the slow lane
  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 21,094 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker

    Is there a missing "not"?

    retailer noting it in a email is enough.

  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 41,010 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic

    What would be the test for an email from the retailer to qualify, i.e. do they need to state that they have issued the refund, or simply that they will?

  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 24,203 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Sixth Anniversary Name Dropper
    Life in the slow lane
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.6K Life & Family
  • 262.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.