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CP plus LTD, DCB Legal LTD, locked keys in car

Hi all,

Finally reached my claim form stage- just done my acknowledgement.

A bit about my case.

Cold, rainy night at Lancaster services, returned to my car, closed boot.. great my keys are in there. After a couple of hours of trying to get any locksmith to come out on a Friday someone finally came. 2 further hours of trying to get in stood in the freezing rain very stressed we ended up having to smash the window. 4 hours in total. Didn't even cross my mind that you pay at services, because it's normally somewhere you stay for 1/2 an hour.

Great site and helpful information, however i'm struggling with my defence as I good as admitted being the driver during POPLA review, where I was naive and believed in decency. I can post the summary of this if required. I've currently used a mixture of the template, AI and a few suggested cases. I'll post it once I feel confident for review, but first please may I get any advice?!

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  • Coupon-mad
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    "I've currently used a mixture of the template, AI and a few suggested cases."

    Eek - no AI (it cannot do defences ir case law properly) and you don't need to draft a word!

    You'll be using the special (linked in the Template Defence thread) defence para 3 for cases where the breach isn't specified.

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  • Dtgdtg1
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    This is great stuff. Thank you both. I had noticed the jopson case on someone elses thread and thought that is likely relevant.

    I'll also use the linked paragraph 3, shall I also add my circumstances or leave it at that.

    Are there any paragraphs I need to avoid from the template as I've admitted both the details and being the driver?

    No AI going forward, I promise. Even though it does seem to think it knows better than this forum.

  • Gr1pr
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    edited 5 May at 11:28PM

    No circumstances, because the alleged breach is not pleaded

    Save your fairy stories for your Witness statement plus Exhibits bundle in several months time

    If necessary, add and driver to the end of paragraph 2

  • Coupon-mad
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    I agree. No circumstances.

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  • Le_Kirk
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    With an issue date of 29/04/26 and providing you complete(d) the AoS after 04/05/26 and before or on 18/05/26 your defence deadline date is 4.00 p.m. on 01/06/26

  • Car1980
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    At Popla did you present it as mitigating circumstances, or in contract law (frustration of contract) terms?

    Just argue a form of mitigation and they will just reject.

  • Dtgdtg1
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    I argued as a form of mitigation and in an emotive way, absolute 0 contract law..

    I suppose what I'm asking now, does what I've put in my Popla case affect using any parts of the template defence such as paragraph 2 and details being vaguem

  • Dtgdtg1
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    I completed on the 4th, does this take me up to the 31st? Either way I aim to get it sorted within this week?

  • Gr1pr
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    Just get it done this month, or today if you want

    Use the 10 paragraph template defence, no changes to paragraph 2

    Use the Chan and Akande defence template paragraph for your paragraph 3, no changes, just copy and paste, save submit , on MCOL

    Simples

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