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Tenant obstructing access rights.

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  • TroubledTarts
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    How much? Knowing what you know of the situation here?

    How much to appease them even though it may well have been clear from the start this was a Right of Way?

  • GDB2222
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    Just thinking laterally for a second, I wonder who owns the boundary fence? The owner has a right to demolish it or remove the door. :)

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  • Herzlos
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    How much is the rent? How much do the tenant care about it?

    We don't know enough to put any kind of figure on it.

  • Section62
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    We also don't know exactly what rights the mid-tenant has. A RoW can be general, but it can also be very specific - even as tight as only for the purposes of taking a dustbin out for collection on the collection day appointed by the local authority.

    Before getting too 'legal' there ought to be confirmation that the mid-terrace landlord's right (whatever it is) extends to cover whatever activity the mid-terrace tenant wants to do. It shouldn't be assumed that teenage children of the mid-tenant have the right to wheel/carry bikes over the RoW.

    This might also affect what figure the end-tenant would be happy with as a settlement.

  • GDB2222
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    I'm inclined to think that the friend of @silvercar would have checked this point by now.

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  • WIAWSNB
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    Oh that is brilliant! 😁

    Wouldn't it be great - nothing left standing but a locked gate rocking gently in the breeze.

  • TroubledTarts
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    That's how escalation starts, one neighbour removes the fence the other puts one up.

  • BikingBud
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    If it's a mid-terrace what's at the other end?

    We had 1 in the middle of six cottages and yes it was normal to go out one way but the ROW was to pass and repass by foot over the entire rear of the terrace.

    Can they turn left rather than right? If not should they be able to?

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  • GDB2222
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    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • silvercar
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    Thanks for all the comments.

    The RoW is only through the adjacent EoT, to access the other way would involve a gate in the fence on the other side and going through the adjacent mid Terrace and through the EoT on the other side. There terraces are in blocks of 4. Given the RoW is right by the rear of the houses, it isn’t practical or possible to have access in the other direction.

    The EoT landlord recently replaced the fence between the properties, including the gate, and gave their tenant and my friend’s tenant a key to the gate. The tenant of the EoT then fitted a bolt.

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