unreasonable landlord

la531983

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81974623#Comment_81974623

Or has been visiting whilst they are out, peering through the windows.

Myci85

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81974639#Comment_81974639

Or has recently done a house inspection, agreed and arranged with tenants, but then addressed concerns later in a letter.

Just because the requests are unreasonable and the landlord is elderly, doesn't mean he is snooping.

Arctos

Unless there are contrary clauses in the tenancy agreement specific to use of the garage, garden or the tenants own furniture and chattels, what has been said already must be legit. If, however, garden tools are being hung on the garage walls either by nails, screws or bolts penetrating the fabric of the garage, this may be considered as causing damage. It is a reasonable expectation, if not a part of the tenancy agreement, that once the tenancy is relinquished the property will be vacated in a like condition to when the tenancy commenced. Storing items, choice of ornaments, use of garden furniture is limited to the duration of the tenancy and thus the tenant's private matter. Tenancy is an agreement binding on both parties. Any deviation from that agreement by seeking to impose further demands or diminishing what the other party gets/enjoys is unlikely to have any legal merit.

shar64

thanks for all replies, landlord put his properties with a letting agent as he used to manage them himself, letting agent found a lot of problems which need sorting with property but landlord came to have a look for himself and that is when he started going in about the fact they have too much stuff! still cannot see what harm pots do in garden and now he has sent another letter saying they cannot keep a planter by front door, cannot have a garden waste bin in front garden and not allowed the bin storage container either , he seems hell bent on upsetting them? trouble is daughter has had major back surgery and unable to work for a year or so and they cannot afford to move

TroubledTarts

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81977407#Comment_81977407

I would suggest they just deal with the letting agent sending them the demands of the landlord for their opinion.

Grumpy_chap

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81977407#Comment_81977407

What are the nature of the problems which need sorting with the property?

Obviously, we don't know how much "stuff" there is or is not so have taken the stance in reading the tread that the amount of "stuff" is reasonable and kept in fair order. It is possible that the amount of "stuff" is excessive (think hoarder-next-door TV) or even reasonable quantities of "stuff" kept in poor fashion.

Now, most of this is still not the LLs concern as it is for the Ts to choose how they live themselves, however in some cases "stuff" and the way it is stored / kept can contribute to problems with the property. The most obvious case would be any damp issues where "stuff" (indoors or out) can be restricting ventilation or supporting condensation, bridging damp course etc.

I am going to add to this - is the LL / Agent addressing the problems which need sorting? Is it possible that the comments from the LL are all in positive tone? Do the items that need to be moved only need moving to facilitate the access for the work to be done for the problems to be solved? Is June when the LL's tradespeople hope to attend to sort the problems? (Rather than when the LL wants the T to move out?)

_Penny_Dreadful

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81977407#Comment_81977407

File it away. The window of opportunity to issue a section 21 is getting smaller do not poke the bear.