Switching to full fibre

Newcad

This is the MSE forum.

So take a step back here and ask yourself a question - do you really need Full Fibre? Or are you being sold something that you don't really need?

For most housholds FTTC is quite adequate, having the higher Data Transfer capacity of FTTP will not speed up your computing experience - unless you have a lot of devices and are currently experiencing lags and buffering delays.

You don't need a racing car to drive to the shops, or the cinema, you don't need Full Fibre speeds to shop online or stream TV,.

So if you don't actually need FTTP then save your money and don't let yourself get persuaded to pay for data capacity that you will never use.

oldernonethewiser

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81968233#Comment_81968233

Having had Sky recently installed I have not had anyone from Sky anywhere near my property. All done by CityFibre who merely upgraded the ONT and left me to it. When the fibre was originally installed it was CityFibre who drilled the hole in the wall.

Very possibly different systems with the two companies. You can get a cheaper deal with CityFibre than Openreach for Sky. Openreach connectivity wasn't an option for me.

flaneurs_lobster

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81968643#Comment_81968643

My out of contract BT FTTC 47Mbps until April this year - £41.33/mth

My new contract BT FTTP 480Mbps - £27.99/mth

Do I need that speed, no. But it was offered at less than the 80Mbps like-for-like-ish replacement.

I was sold at, and bit.

Newcad

Good deal then, and as you say go for the cheapest even if it is more that you actually need.

I'm currently on the BT Home Essentials 38 mbps for £16/mth, includes unlimited VOIP phone calls too.
(However now that I'm a pensioner and no longer on a means tested benefit that will end for me in Oct/Nov so I'll then have to go back on commercial rates).

We are now being offered FTTP round here, by Fibrus initially, so I will be checking their prices closer to the time.

As a single person 38 mbps is adequate for me, even if I'm using 2 or 3 devices at the same time.

I did used to have 150 mbps with a different supplier (oddly it was an electricity+gas+broadband package from my energy company at the time) and TBH the only difference that I notice is with Windows Updates.
BT throttles them to your paid for speed, whereas for some reason with that other supplier Windows Updates were not throttled to 150 mbps and would fly in at whatever rate MS was pushing them out.

Murmansk

The person who installed my fibre took it through the wall on the second floor about a foot from where the old copper line comes in. I spent a few hours before arranging a conduit through loft with nice gentle bends and a pull string so the installer could feed it through to the centre of the flat where the router power sockets are.

The feeding through only took a couple of minutes so the installer was happy to use it

Eldi_Dos

It would be interesting to know that whatever company does the instal uses ZHLS (zero halogen low smoke) cable /tail into your premises. If not they really should be restricting how much is installed inside your premises.

flaneurs_lobster

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81969796#Comment_81969796

Where What?

You can't just drop a brand new/never heard of before/extra thing to worry about into a thread without at least a link to a reasonable explanation of whatever that thing is.

B0bbyEwing

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81968328#Comment_81968328

Some times I read other responses, some times not.

Equally I don't go digging in to peoples post history & take them on a per-post basis whereas some members love digging.

Each to their own.

Eldi_Dos

@flaneurs_lobster

Oops…

Most external telephone cables give off noxious smoke if alight, especially grease filled ones, grease is used as a filler to stop the ingress and flow of water if it gets into the cables.

In commercial situations the norm is when a external cable enters a customers premises, in a cable chamber or a plant room,usually in the basement. A termination ( transition) joint is done where the extenal cable is jointed to a internal cable (ZHLS).This intenal cable is then run to the comms room which can often be several floors away.

ZHLS cables are routinely used in railways, underground systems, tunnels, shopping centres amongst many other situations.

My bit tongue in cheek, comment was partly prompted by wondering if the cable / tail run from the ONT inside peoples houses to the splicing point outside was ZHLS rated. I would imagine it is but it could be part of the consideration why the companies preferred location for positioning ONT is as near the cable entry to the premises as well as location of power point to power the ONT unit.