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Towing in a car that has no Gross Train Weight
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That section must surely be irrelevant here. It relates to "goods vehicles and buses" which have a load plate, as defined in section 66. The car is neither a goods vehicle nor a bus, and it does not have a load plate displayed anywhere (and it is not mandatory for it to have one).
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Read section 66 though - it is titled "goods vehicles and buses" but the regulations also cover cars after 1968.
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If the vehicle has been SVA'd onto the road as a JDM import, it won't have any weights on the 'plate as it never had to comply with European directives in the first place.
Hence that article I linked before, and the author basically getting "Does not compute" responses from DVSA.
However, it is possible to get a VIN plate made with some weights marked on to match a Euro spec. vehicle that would appear to comply with C&U, but the vehicle was never actually compliant….
I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....
(except air quality and Medical Science
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As far as I can see, section 66 does not change the meaning of section 80 - none of a), b) or c) apply to this vehicle, so it seems to be completely irrelevant.
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WHAT VEHICLE?
Also, its quite clear you're drip feeding us information, and twisting things around to try and get us to say an answer you like. If it is genuinely not covered by 80 a b or c, it is either pre 1968, not type approved in the UK, or not gone through the SVA/IVA process properly.
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There genuinely isn't anything very interesting about the vehicle at all - it's a very ordinary UK-spec BMW that has no load plate (not because someone has removed it or it's a non-UK model, but because they are all like that from the factory).
The lack of load plate is in accordance with The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 Section 66 1) a) v): it is a passenger vehicle that is not a bus, and so is not required to have one. And, like a lot of other small cars, it has no defined GTW because it was not homologated with one.
I'm not trying to twist anything - I don't have any vested interest in what the answer is because, as I've already said, I have no intention to tow with it.
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That makes it an offence to exceed the plated weight. The OP's point is that there is no such weight.
e seem to be going round in circles.
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out of interest what made you investigate it if you have no interest in towing with it ?
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Aha, I think I see where your confusion comes from.
German TuV approval requirements are very different to UK ones.
In Germany, ALL modifications have to be TuV approved. You cannot just bolt a non-type-approved bar for a bike rack on. You can't put a different size of tyre on, or a rear spoiler, unless they're specifically approved.
In the UK, you can.
So, no, you cannot TOW with that towbar in Germany or the UK, but you can put a towbar on for a bike rack in both Germany and the UK.1 -
Leets give you a example.
Kia E-Niro has no towing weight listed. So legally you can not tow anything. But you can get tow bars for bike racks (legal as they are part of the car, & not being able to tow) To stop towing, there is a pin on the ball.
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