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Should you split large ETF purchases?
Are there reasons to split large purchases of ETFs into 2+ smaller transactions, and if so to keep them below about what size? This is about AGBP which is large and liquid.
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What is your thinking as to why that could be beneficial?
Last ETF I bought was £75K of MSCI ACWI which I did all in one go.
What do you define as large? AGBP is a 13 billion dollar fund, so it would take some substantial amount for a purchase to influence it in any way?
• The rich buy assets.
• The poor only have expenses.
• The middle class buy liabilities they think are assets.0 -
II have much higher charges for trades over £100k so it's worth breaking such trades down.
Other than charges (which are very platform specific), I can't think of any reason to split trades.
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ii have just increased the limit to £500k before the £40 charge kicks in. AGBP has quite a wide spread; HL shows 0.74% at this point in time. I realise the final quote would probably come in lower but I'm planning to set a limit price. If I set it for the full amount of £145k and say only £80k was available at that price, I assume it would not trade. It wouldn't be like Betfair Exchange where it will nibble as much as is available and leave the balance untraded.
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I buy huge, and i mean huge amount of ETF and they are always available. every so often it does say, there is not enough available but that has only happened once in a while and then they are able to buy it soon after as they keep doing it.
ETF by definition are volatile and available so you should be fine. i buy as much as i can in one transaction as there is less fee but i often split it over two transactions, simply to get the pricing right and nothing to do with the amount available.
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Trading212 has forced me to split orders (IIRC to a max of about £30k). Elsewhere I wouldn't normally split. I can only recall a couple of orders I've placed that have crept over £100k.
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I experimented and got these results consistenty over a couple of minutes.
For £1k: £4.599
For £10k: £4.59998
For £145k: £4.59998
So it looks like I have to suck up the 0.02% higher price.
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There was a £471,955.40 trade of AGBP on the LSE at 08:44:55 this morning:
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Wasn't me, guv.
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Are there reasons to split large purchases of ETFs into 2+ smaller transactions…
Time cost averaging, arguably.
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ETFs can trade at a small discount or premium to NAV. That could work for or against you, but you might want to average that effect out. A £5 commission is 0.005% of a £100K trade, which is small in comparison to the likely discount/premium. AGBP is was at a discount of 0.03% at the last valuation point according to TradingView:
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/LSE-AGBP/
We do not, however, know what the discount/premium is in real time. Splitting a large trade into £100K (or perhaps smaller) chunks could make sense.
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