What would be a good deal for Toyota car

Bigphil1474

Pretty sure you can't usually buy a car with a balloon payment on a personal lease deal. Check the Ts&Cs before signing anything.

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If the car lives outside, it will need some form of paint protection, (bird poo soaks into modern "paint" and leaves marks that never come out) just apply it yourself as soon as you get the car.

1. this saves a lot of money- like £15-£20 if you do it yourself, £ hundreds for the dealer to do it.
2. polishing the car is easy when you just got it and the novelty hasn't worn off!
3. polishing lets you check for any marks in the paint that you can take back to the dealer and complain about on a brand new car.

There are plenty of Magic Fluids about, I use Autoglym extra gloss protection as there is still some left in the bottle…

James2k

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And bird droppings will burn right through that.

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But it does give a little more time to remove them. Seagull poo (there is a reason they are called sh#tehawks) goes through "paint" in microseconds, and will burn through pretty much anything.

I find with a layer of resin polish and an overcoat of silicone sealer I can get a bucket water to it as soon as I see any and it comes off clean.

Alanp

I had the paint protection when I bought my Yaris cross, my dealer uses the gen3 coating, it’s ok, but I’m not sure I’d have it again as I like to polish my own cars, but it does save time when washing as water beads off quickly, I got a complimentary kit of the gen3 products one of which was a bird dropping remover, handy if your out and about and you notice your car has been left a present..

James2k

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For real. Time is the essence

Goudy

No one can tell you what's best as the details of any deals are missing.

As far as which is the better car, I've spent a lot of time in and around the Yaris, Yaris Cross and recently checked out the new Aygo X Hybrid and for me, the Aygo X is far far too small and I only really drive with me in the car.

The Aygo X is a far better car than it used to be now it's hybrid, the old 1.0 litre engine was only fit for town tootling but for me, it's too tight inside. The seats are narrow and the squabs are too short, the boot is poor even for a car in this class and the finish has too many cost cuttings. Lots on painted surfaces inside and the trim is a bit nasty in places.

The Yaris is a far better car all round and with the 130hp version if the Hybrid system (Excel and GR Sport) it really is a bit of a jack of all trades. It's happy on any roads.

They aren't as smooth on the roads as most European hatchbacks, they tend to feel a bit stiffer, but they are hardly rough and once you get used to how they like to be driven, they are pretty well refined. It's only when you try to drive one hard do they scream and shout a bit too much.

The higher end models tend to be quite expensive, so it's worth shopping around and using sites like Carwow etc, you will definitely save some money.

Deals are pretty slim at the moment on most cars, but you should find a healthy saving off list if you shop about.

I would say the cheapest way is to shop around and take a PCP deal, then clear it as soon as you can. That way you'll get the benefits from the PCP without all the interest, but saying that these have up to 10 year/100,000 mile warranties if you keep then serviced in the dealer network. So it might be worth paying higher monthlies on a HP deal as once it's paid off fully, there's likely 6 to 10 years of good motoring still left in it without much bother.

There's little that go wrong with them. The later cars have much better Li-on batteries, but the older models still got 150-180k miles out of the older NiMH batteries which was pretty impressive.

The running gear is pretty sound, though rear wheel bearings are prone after 70-80k or so. Cheap bolt off and on units.

The hybrid system is well developed and reliable, the one weak point is the electric water pumps. After 100-120k they are known to start to break up inside, but the fix is fairly cheap and the on board diagnostics will let you know when.

Bigwheels1111

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Very good points, Water pump especially, as Toyota cars don’t seem to have a temperature gauge.

You just get a fault code.

On a Prius it’s 5 or 6 bolts, and a wire clip.

Takes less than an hour for an idiot like me to change and replace the antifreeze.

Newer vehicles will no need a battery as cab drivers are getting 500,000 miles and no battery needed.

daveyjp

All our Toyotas have had temp gauges.

Wheel bearings are warranted to 10 years/100,000 miles. I had them changed at 7 years and about 40,000 miles on a Yaris which had the annual service warranty extension.

Goudy

The Prius have a bit more room to get at the pump. The Yaris is a lot tighter space wise.

The pump is electric and variable speed, the ECU calls on a speed and if it doesn't get it, it throws an DTC, usually P261B and engine light.

The impeller is part of the motor, the magnet part and is coated in a rubber type substance but over time it breaks down, the metal magnet rusts and swells and the impeller starts to bind in the housing.

This is one I did a while ago, you can see it start to split the rubber.

Genuine Toyota ones can be pricey but you can buy them direct from the original manufacturer Aisin, and they a lot cheaper. I also believe there are some aftermarket ones as well, some better than others but I wouldn't touch any of them.

It all sounds like a faff, but you'd normally swap out a water pump on a normal car way before these start giving problems and that usually involves a lot more labour.

The rear wheel bearing are simple, they are just complete hubs that bolt off and on. I never bother with genuine replacements, there are better made ones out there like J&R for around £60 a pair. They say they are handed, left and right but they are the same part just flipped over.

I took this one out of a colleagues 2016 Yaris Hybrid with 165,000 on the clock. It had been moaning about it for a while but it gradually got worse.

Soon after the battery (Old NiMH) started to give the dreaded P0A80, replace hybrid battery. We managed to nurse it along for another 20,000 miles by just resetting the code with Dr Prius and an iPhone every now and then. Eventually it started to come back on almost immediately. Four or five on the inner battery modules were well cooked by then. Still not bad, the thing was doing 20+k a year and still returning around 84 mpg at the end.