SSP query

itsthelittlethings

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81930162#Comment_81930162

Why does the the gov.uk website say you qualify after three consecutive days including non working days?

Altior

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81930167#Comment_81930167

That's when someone is eligible. Then the qualifying days comes into it (3 days' waiting).

It has to work like that if you think about it. Take a FT worker M to F and a PT worker M & Th, both off for the week. If it worked they way people are saying here, the PTer would only have one day with no income. The FTer would miss three.

Yamor

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81930167#Comment_81930167

Altior is right. After three working or non-working days you (currently) QUALIFY. But then, separately, you only (currently) get PAID from the 4th working day of your period of sickness.

See the previous page on gov.uk to the one linked earlier:

https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay/what-youll-get

"You’ll be paid SSP for all the days you’re off sick that you normally would have worked, except for the first 3."

itsthelittlethings

That’s atrocious that if you work one day a week you have to wait four weeks for sicks pay (if you even earn enough).

Yamor

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81930184#Comment_81930184

All changing in a couple of weeks!

Altior

The policy is changing isn't it, but three days' waiting is meant to be a disincentive to be absent. And it was effective in my experience. The disincentive is applied equally, you won't get any income for three working days.

I had the fortune you might say of signing off payroll for hourly and salaried staff. Salaried staff got full pay from day one, and hourly staff got the minimum, ssp. As one could imagine, it was pretty rare for hourly staff to be absent unless they had a fit note. Of course policy doesn't come under the topics for discussion on this board.

I saw it from both sides as from time to time, hourly staff were working when they shouldn't have been, due to illness.

Altior

I think I mentioned it on another discussion on the forum. We used to get hourly staff trying to work before the fit note had ended. Due to the loss of income. We were told by the HR people that it wasn't permitted unless they got an updated fit note. However other people on here were saying that it must have been company policy, rather than the law (I'm pretty sure that HR told us it was unlawful to have someone return when they were signed off).

TimeLord1

That's because employers used to threaten employees with dismissal unless they returned to work. Under union regulations, it's the same as striking, really, not that the unions are what they once were—too powerful. Crossing the line became deadly. Cooperatives were successful at first, but coming and going wherever you wanted wasn't good for deadlines. You only have to look at who is striking today to see it's those that got decent wage increases. If it works once, they'll be back for more.

Little_miss_dfw

thank you everyone.

wouldn’t have gotten any sick pay till week 4. It wasn’t until I saw the link on another post that said about 3 days including on working i got confused as to my entitlement.

Little_miss_dfw

Thank you. It is unfair. I was only off due to a cracked rib but couldn’t afford to take more than 2 weeks off as couldn’t afford to lose another weeks wages.

I earn enough for ssp and company top up. On my old pattern I worked 3 days so only lost a weeks wages.

Someone mentioned no waiting days soon. Would this mean if I needed a few weeks off again I would get paid from day 1?