State Pension Overpayment

scottleag

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81880611#Comment_81880611

Fat chance. Same has happened today with pension credit. Full payment amount as before. I qualify on my own for PC. But at nowhere near the same rate for a couple.

TimeLord1

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81881180#Comment_81881180

They're paid in arrears so basically you will be looking at March for any substantial changes. Computer payments is probably in January.

scottleag

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81881327#Comment_81881327

Yes, fortnightly in arrears and my wife died seventeen days ago so I should have received a reduced payment today. I'll do the same as with the pension and let them reclaim it from the bank. She also would have been due a PIP payment next week which should be cancelled as well. I'll see what happens then. I thought this was all dealt with by the Tell Us Once service and a process of automation would kick in after that. I just want everything settled as I think I've a good idea how much they'll reclaim but can't be certain. Thank you for your kind words.

TimeLord1

Remember, if they deduct any large amounts, make sure you will not see yourself facing financial difficulties or creating future debts.

sheramber

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81881368#Comment_81881368

Tell us once is a service that notifies the other departments. They do not process the changes.

Someone in the department concerned has to receive and action the information.

Payments are in the pipeline before a payment date so immediate cancellation will not be possible.

Same as an employer’s payroll has a cut off date, before pay day, for any changes to be made.

ChasingtheWelshdream

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81879879#Comment_81879879

I am sorry for your loss OP.

I just wanted to pick up on this comment as I work in this field.

The 5/8 day time limit to register a death is from the point the Registrar receives all the correct paperwork from the doctors/coroner etc. Not from the date of death.

The registrar is unable to do anything until that point and recent changes to the medical certification process means this is often delayed.

There will no implications, other than the delayed notification to Tell Us Once, as the OP has discovered.

Without going off topic too much, I hope that is useful.

scottleag

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81882464#Comment_81882464

Thank you very much for this. I was told registrar had the information on a Friday and I could phone for an appointment as they were closed on Fridays. I phoned immediately and earliest they could give me was the following Thursday morning so it took six days even though I phoned immediately and took the first available appointment.

scottleag

Payments are now operating the other way. My wife was due five days PIP this morning but there has been no payment. So that's sixteen days state pension overpayment, five days PIP no payment and two pension credit payments at 'normal' levels, i.e. not reduced as they should have been following my wife's passing. One of them should have had three days reduction and the other the full fortnight.

In addition I have received no reply to my letter of December 1st asking for a mandatory reconsideration of pension credit when they failed to apply disregards.

I don't think I am a stupid person but I am totally at a loss as to what to do regarding all this.

TELLIT01

If you used the Tell Us Once system, the registrar will inform DWP etc. I would wait for a letter from DWP and bear in mind that although the letter implies an overpayment must be returned, the reality is that this a request and will only be made once, it will not be chased.

At least that was the situation, I'm sure somebody with more recent knowledge of the system will be able to say if that is still true.

Regarding the requirement to register within 'x' days, when my brother died I contacted the registrar the day after and couldn't get an appointment for 3 weeks. When I raised the legal requirement I was simply told they were short staffed.

Sorry for your loss.

TimeLord1

Just check that they've received it. Post is very slow around Christmas especially letters.