Fibre broadband POE connection advice

birdy59

I have the BT pole right outside my house and fibre broadband is available.

My question is to reduce the amount of cable can i connect the fibre from the pole to the top corner of my house where i already have an ethernet cable that already goes into the house.

I was wondering if i could use something like a Ubiquiti FibrePOE Gen2 or something similar and supply power to it via POE over the ethernet cable and then connect the openreach ONT to this and supply a connection to the router from there using ethernet cable? 

Hope this makes sense?

Thanks,
Michael

Vitor

Very, very unlikely Openreach will consider doing this. The fibre drop from the pole must terminate on an Openreach ONT inside the property, powered by its own PSU. You can’t substitute a media converter, power it by PoE, or reuse an existing Ethernet run for the fibre side. The fibre cable is thin and they’ll route it neatly. Once the ONT is installed, you’re free to use your existing Ethernet internally to connect your router wherever you want.

sheenas

Not heard of fibre being supplied via pole. It’s normally underground. My fibre is not BT’s and is completely separate from the phone line. Further on the router is the only item needing power which is within the house. 

QrizB

sheenas said:

Not heard of fibre being supplied via pole. It’s normally underground.

Overhead fibre is quite common.

birdy59 said:

My question is to reduce the amount of cable can i connect the fibre from the pole to the top corner of my house where i already have an ethernet cable that already goes into the house.

Have another vote for "unlikely". BT will want to run their fibre all the way to their ONT.

Maybe think about where the most convenient place is for the ONT and work from there?

daveyjp

sheenas said:

Not heard of fibre being supplied via pole. It’s normally underground. My fibre is not BT’s and is completely separate from the phone line. Further on the router is the only item needing power which is within the house. 

Our fibre is provided from the original BT telegraph pole.

J_B

sheenas said:

Not heard of fibre being supplied via pole. It’s normally underground. .....

Our neighbour had FTTP installed ... 3 miles overground on poles

iniltous

It’s an absolute non starter, Openreach provides fibre to the ONT in two parts CBT (at the pole top in your case ) to CSP , with an external grade optical cable and CSP to ONT an internal grade optical cable , this side of the network is not available for the customer to mess around with , that’s the end of it , no wriggle room , no negotiation , after the ONT if you want to mess about that’s up-to you ,because if you break it forwards if the ONT it’s not Openreach’s problem , but obviously your meddling would be before the ONT and therefore not allowed.

Rob5342

sheenas said:

Not heard of fibre being supplied via pole. It’s normally underground. My fibre is not BT’s and is completely separate from the phone line. Further on the router is the only item needing power which is within the house. 

It's quite common. If it's openreach they will normally route it the same way as the original copper cable, either stringing it from the existing telegraph pole or feeding it through the existing underground duct. If there is no pole nor duct they will sometimes put up a new telegraph pole but I have never seen new ducts put in. It it's an alternative supplier like Cityfibre they will often use openreachs poles and ducts if they are there and sometimes put in their own poles or underground feeds. They tend to put in new underground feeds rather than new telegraph poles from what I have seen around here. 

In answer to the original question, I'm pretty sure that openreach will only install to an ONT. I'd get them to install that wherever you think is convenient, and then adjust the ethernet and power supply connection after they've gone. 

Ectophile

Rob5342 said:

sheenas said:

Not heard of fibre being supplied via pole. It’s normally underground. My fibre is not BT’s and is completely separate from the phone line. Further on the router is the only item needing power which is within the house. 

It's quite common. If it's openreach they will normally route it the same way as the original copper cable, either stringing it from the existing telegraph pole or feeding it through the existing underground duct. If there is no pole nor duct they will sometimes put up a new telegraph pole but I have never seen new ducts put in. It it's an alternative supplier like Cityfibre they will often use openreachs poles and ducts if they are there and sometimes put in their own poles or underground feeds. They tend to put in new underground feeds rather than new telegraph poles from what I have seen around here. 

In answer to the original question, I'm pretty sure that openreach will only install to an ONT. I'd get them to install that wherever you think is convenient, and then adjust the ethernet and power supply connection after they've gone. 

Openreach will do whatever is easiest.

The phone lines in my street are in ducts.  But my old phone line is buried somewhere under the driveway, and under the front wall of the house, coming out in the hallway.  Openreach had no interest in digging that up to install the fibre.

Instead, they dug a little trench across my front lawn and installed a duct that looks suspiciously like a lump of garden hose.  The fibre then comes in through the living room wall to the Openreach ONT, which is mounted rather loosely at a jaunty angle.