Heating takes ages to heat up - small house

silvercar

ComicGeek said:

If the boiler is sized correctly, then around 80% of the boiler's output is intended to replace heat lost on the coldest day through the walls, floor, roof, windows, ventilation, air leakage etc.

The remaining 20% is needed to raise the room temperature, as the initial 80% purely offsets the losses - if you want to raise the temperature more quickly, or raise the temperature on really cold days, then this design margin needs to be increased. 

But if the heating system is designed to run at a flow temperature of 75 degrees, and it's dropped down to 65 degrees to save money, then the heating output has been reduced by 20% - that means the heating only offsets the losses and doesn't raise the internal temperature much if at all! If the heating isn't sufficient, then increase the boiler temp for just a few days. The adverts about turning down the boiler temperature are very misleading and give poor advice, as the savings are extremely small with gas boilers and likely to lead to poor comfort in winter.

At the moment you're spending 80% of the fuel cost and still being cold, and to me that's a waste. Either accept spending 100% and be warm, or spend much less and accept being cold (or go out, visit a friend, wear more layers, heat only 1 room etc).  

Totally agree. But you don’t want the home to get so cold for prolonged periods that you get damp problems, or worse frozen pipes. There are places to go to during the day that cost less than heating the home for long periods eg public libraries or supermarket coffee shops. A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

As for spending a bit more to be comfortable, why not treat yourself to a warm day in the house and then economise more on other days? 

Still not sure if your monthly amount is an annualised spend, or the actual spend for this month.

plumb1_2

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Do you use the capillary action method 

silvercar

plumb1_2 said:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Do you use the capillary action method 

Radiant heat generated from the hot air being spouted from people on nearby tables.

bjorn_toby_wilde

silvercar said:

plumb1_2 said:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Do you use the capillary action method 

Radiant heat generated from the hot air being spouted from people on nearby tables.

Using that logic the pub should be even better

Albermarle

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

silvercar said:

plumb1_2 said:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Do you use the capillary action method 

Radiant heat generated from the hot air being spouted from people on nearby tables.

Using that logic the pub should be even better

Or even better the Members bar in the House of Commons .

QrizB

While we're all having fun with the suggestion:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Let's not forget that £60 a month, £2 a day, is the OP's self-imposed limit on their entire heating bill.

Spending that £2 on a cup of tea in a cafe would mean having no heating at home at all.

If we're saying "oh but this is extra spending", IMHO they'd be better off spending an extra £1 on gas and having a cup of tea at home with a good book / the telly / TikTok.

WIAWSNB

Albermarle said:

Or even better the Members bar in the House of Commons .

This forum keeps me quite warm. 

plumb1_2

QrizB said:

While we're all having fun with the suggestion:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Let's not forget that £60 a month, £2 a day, is the OP's self-imposed limit on their entire heating bill.

Spending that £2 on a cup of tea in a cafe would mean having no heating at home at all.

If we're saying "oh but this is extra spending", IMHO they'd be better off spending an extra £1 on gas and having a cup of tea at home with a good book / the telly / TikTok.

Cheaper to go to spoons, £0.99p a pint for worthingtons , sadly no free refills.

bjorn_toby_wilde

QrizB said:

While we're all having fun with the suggestion:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Let's not forget that £60 a month, £2 a day, is the OP's self-imposed limit on their entire heating bill.

Spending that £2 on a cup of tea in a cafe would mean having no heating at home at all.

If we're saying "oh but this is extra spending", IMHO they'd be better off spending an extra £1 on gas and having a cup of tea at home with a good book / the telly / TikTok.

It would be better I would think to heat the house more or less constantly to a lower temperature. As it loses temperature it will be harder to raise the temperature of the fabric of the building.

silvercar

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

QrizB said:

While we're all having fun with the suggestion:

silvercar said:

A £2 tea could last a couple of hours and save on your heating costs.

Let's not forget that £60 a month, £2 a day, is the OP's self-imposed limit on their entire heating bill.

Spending that £2 on a cup of tea in a cafe would mean having no heating at home at all.

If we're saying "oh but this is extra spending", IMHO they'd be better off spending an extra £1 on gas and having a cup of tea at home with a good book / the telly / TikTok.

It would be better I would think to heat the house more or less constantly to a lower temperature. As it loses temperature it will be harder to raise the temperature of the fabric of the building.

When you are being frugal with heating, does it make sense to have it at 16 degrees 24/7 when you don't really need it more than 12-14 in the night when you are huddled under duvets and blankets? It may be worth experimenting on the costs of heating all day vs a higher temp for a few hours.