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Letter Before Claim / BLUE BADGE. H E L P.

samnotsam21
samnotsam21 Posts: 4 Newbie
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Hi all,

I’m new here so apologies if this isn’t the right place.

I received two private parking tickets dated 23/05/2022 and 29/05/2022 for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a Blue Badge. I’ve now been sent a Letter Before Claim.

I am a genuine wheelchair user and drive an adapted notability vehicle. A few weeks before these dates my Blue Badge slipped down behind the dashboard and became stuck. Retrieving it requires a VW appointment to strip part of the dash, which couldn’t be done straight away. I regularly park here and normally display my badge as I can’t walk and my car requires space for ramp etc.

Staff at the Flannels store said it was fine to park there, and I wasn’t abusing the bay — I physically need disabled parking. I’m now being asked to pay £170 x 2, which feels completely unreasonable.

I’m not lying or trying to avoid anything — I am genuinely disabled and require the bay.

Has anyone dealt with something similar or can advise what I should do next at Letter Before Claim stage?


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  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 16,102 Forumite
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    You'd be better off posting on the parking board.  I presume you had prior correspondence before it got to this stage?  What happened, did you ignore it or did you try appealing unsuccessfully?
  • OP, have requested this be moved to parking:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/parking-tickets-fines-parking

    Admin are usually pretty quick :) 
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • jon81uk
    jon81uk Posts: 3,919 Forumite
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    edited 15 December at 3:22PM
    As above you will be better asking the parking board. Parking tickets, fines & parking — MoneySavingExpert Forum

    But if the sign states you must display a blue badge in that space and you were not, then the parking company will want to try and charge you. The store staff won't work for the parking company.
  • dnpark38
    dnpark38 Posts: 222 Forumite
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    I'm surprised you did not put a short note visible for the parking attendant to read.
    When renewing in my area we do this when renewal as been done because it takes council 6 months to process renewals.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Hi all,

    I’m new here so apologies if this isn’t the right place.

    I received two private parking tickets dated 23/05/2022 and 29/05/2022 for parking in a disabled bay without displaying a Blue Badge. I’ve now been sent a Letter Before Claim.

    I am a genuine wheelchair user and drive an adapted notability vehicle. A few weeks before these dates my Blue Badge slipped down behind the dashboard and became stuck. Retrieving it requires a VW appointment to strip part of the dash, which couldn’t be done straight away. I regularly park here and normally display my badge as I can’t walk and my car requires space for ramp etc.

    Staff at the Flannels store said it was fine to park there, and I wasn’t abusing the bay — I physically need disabled parking. I’m now being asked to pay £170 x 2, which feels completely unreasonable.

    I’m not lying or trying to avoid anything — I am genuinely disabled and require the bay.

    Has anyone dealt with something similar or can advise what I should do next at Letter Before Claim stage?

    In your case I would email the solicitors and attach a copy of your Blue badge, and evidence you are a wheelchair user.

    Tell them of the difficulty due to the temporary slipped blue badge that required specialists to retrieve it and that Flannels had made a contractual 'reasonable adjustment' by giving permission to you to park there on account if disability need. The Equality Act protects you fully in these circumstances so the parking firm is breaking the law by persisting to demand money for using a bay you had permission and a statutory right to use.

    Send the same thing to the retail park managing agents whose name invariably appears at the entrance to retail parks.

    Look carefully. Not at the parking firm signs. Take someone with you to look on foot if needed. Email THEM saying their agents are breaching the Equality Act. They can cancel!

    Which parking firm?

    Which solicitors?

    Which retail park & town?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 15 December at 3:58PM
    dnpark38 said:
    I'm surprised you did not put a short note visible for the parking attendant to read.
    When renewing in my area we do this when renewal as been done because it takes council 6 months to process renewals.
    This is cowboy territory. Private land.

    No genuine parking attendants exist and quite possibly, no PCN was affixed to the windscreen. In our loooonnnng experience, private parking firms are not reasonable people and do not read notes or give a flying fox about disabled rights.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • dnpark38
    dnpark38 Posts: 222 Forumite
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    Coupon-mad if not checked by a human how do they know no Blue Badge displayed?
    My wife holds a blue badge so I would like not to fall into a trap.
  • Coupon-mad
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    dnpark38 said:
    Coupon-mad if not checked by a human how do they know no Blue Badge displayed?
    My wife holds a blue badge so I would like not to fall into a trap.
     I didn't say there wasn't a human. I said there wasn't a genuine parking attendant.

    They either took images by covert CCTV, which is more common recently, or a staff member (maybe of a shop) took images and may or may not have affixed windscreen PCNs.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • samnotsam21
    samnotsam21 Posts: 4 Newbie
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    Hi all,

    New poster here so please bear with me.

    I’m looking for advice regarding two private parking charges from May 2022 (23/05/22 and 29/05/22) at Fort Shopping Park, Birmingham. I’ve now received two Letters Before Claim from Moorside Legal, each for £170.

    The allegation is parking in a disabled bay without displaying a Blue Badge.

    I am a full-time wheelchair user and drive an adapted Motability vehicle. I genuinely require disabled bays due to my disability and the space needed for ramp access and transfers. I regularly parked at this site and always normally displayed my Blue Badge.

    A few weeks before these dates, my Blue Badge slipped behind the dashboard and became stuck. It couldn’t be retrieved without a VW appointment to strip part of the dash, which couldn’t be done straight away. During this period I still needed to travel and park due to my disability.

    I am not abusing disabled bays — I am disabled, use a wheelchair, and the vehicle is adapted accordingly. At the time, staff at the Flannels store said it was fine for me to park there and offered to help carry shopping to the car due to my limitations (no written proof unfortunately).

    I did contact the parking company back in 2022 explaining the situation and then heard nothing further until these recent LBCs.

    I’m now being asked to pay £340 total, which feels completely unreasonable. I’m not trying to avoid anything — I am genuinely disabled, and even replacing a Blue Badge takes time.


    I’d appreciate advice on:


    • How best to respond at Letter Before Claim stage
    • Whether the Equality Act 2010 applies here (private land, disabled motorist)
    • Next steps (SAR / response wording etc.)

    Thanks in advance for any help.


  • knightstyle
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    edited Today at 10:46AM
    You need to read the stickies at the start of this board.   The best way to stop this is to write or email the land owners with pics of your BB, but also make sure you reply to the parking company LBC in good time.  Yes your defence will include reference to the equality act.
    Ignore debt collectors and never communicate by phone, always in writing.
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