Short notice on access gains (possibly the wrong forum)

Mswizzj

Hi, I’m wondering if someone could give me some advice.

I've recently had a bit of an issue, where a neighbours property, which is owned by a housing association has erected scaffold, which is overhanging our property’s airspace by about 2 metres (no big deal), but they never asked permission, nor informed us of this) and the first I knew was impact drivers and clanging of scaffold poles waking me up.

I've asked the housing association why I wasn’t informed prior to this, and also asked what work they’re carrying out - I own my house for any consultation, and my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

my concerns now are, that I’ve been told that the works being done to said property are extensive and long term (3-4 months), baring in mind I’m currently undergoing a garden renovation myself - this will make sense shortly.

the works being done include cladding and rendering, going back to the fact that my neighbours wall is within our garden, I’ve had to make them aware that if they’re rendering and doing any sort of external wall work, that they’ll have to gain access through my property and garden, to do so.

they never informed me of this, and are looking to begin next week, in turn, this has now knocked back my garden project, understandably I can deny access and be awkward, which I’m in two minds on doing, as they haven’t given me any notice of this work at all.

my question is, where do I stand with this? , as the properties are semi detached, meaning when they hack off the external wall in my garden of their house, they’ll have no choice but to hack off part of my property’s wall too.

Just after some advice really as I’m a shift worker and can’t be there to allow access all the time, and frankly, I don’t want any tom , Pete and harry or Lucy… in my garden with items I own, while I’m not there, so things could get awkward unintentionally.

Brie

Does this fall into shared wall party territory?  If their work means your home is effected then surely it's something that they would have to agree with you prior to starting any work.  And it doesn't sound like that has happened.  Is it clear what they will be doing to your property, when, by whom and when it will be completed?  Frankly until all of that is 100% clear to you there is no way to make a decision about anything and a flat no is the only answer possible at this time.

born_again

Mswizzj said:

Hi, I’m wondering if someone could give me some advice.

I've recently had a bit of an issue, where a neighbours property, which is owned by a housing association has erected scaffold, which is overhanging our property’s airspace by about 2 metres (no big deal), but they never asked permission, nor informed us of this) and the first I knew was impact drivers and clanging of scaffold poles waking me up.

I've asked the housing association why I wasn’t informed prior to this, and also asked what work they’re carrying out - I own my house for any consultation, and my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

my concerns now are, that I’ve been told that the works being done to said property are extensive and long term (3-4 months), baring in mind I’m currently undergoing a garden renovation myself - this will make sense shortly.

the works being done include cladding and rendering, going back to the fact that my neighbours wall is within our garden, I’ve had to make them aware that if they’re rendering and doing any sort of external wall work, that they’ll have to gain access through my property and garden, to do so.

they never informed me of this, and are looking to begin next week, in turn, this has now knocked back my garden project, understandably I can deny access and be awkward, which I’m in two minds on doing, as they haven’t given me any notice of this work at all.

my question is, where do I stand with this? , as the properties are semi detached, meaning when they hack off the external wall in my garden of their house, they’ll have no choice but to hack off part of my property’s wall too.

Just after some advice really as I’m a shift worker and can’t be there to allow access all the time, and frankly, I don’t want any tom , Pete and harry or Lucy… in my garden with items I own, while I’m not there, so things could get awkward unintentionally.

How did that happen?

Boohoo

Mswizzj said:

Hi, I’m wondering if someone could give me some advice.

I've recently had a bit of an issue, where a neighbours property, which is owned by a housing association has erected scaffold, which is overhanging our property’s airspace by about 2 metres (no big deal), but they never asked permission, nor informed us of this) and the first I knew was impact drivers and clanging of scaffold poles waking me up.

I've asked the housing association why I wasn’t informed prior to this, and also asked what work they’re carrying out - I own my house for any consultation, and my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

my concerns now are, that I’ve been told that the works being done to said property are extensive and long term (3-4 months), baring in mind I’m currently undergoing a garden renovation myself - this will make sense shortly.

the works being done include cladding and rendering, going back to the fact that my neighbours wall is within our garden, I’ve had to make them aware that if they’re rendering and doing any sort of external wall work, that they’ll have to gain access through my property and garden, to do so.

they never informed me of this, and are looking to begin next week, in turn, this has now knocked back my garden project, understandably I can deny access and be awkward, which I’m in two minds on doing, as they haven’t given me any notice of this work at all.

my question is, where do I stand with this? , as the properties are semi detached, meaning when they hack off the external wall in my garden of their house, they’ll have no choice but to hack off part of my property’s wall too.

Just after some advice really as I’m a shift worker and can’t be there to allow access all the time, and frankly, I don’t want any tom , Pete and harry or Lucy… in my garden with items I own, while I’m not there, so things could get awkward unintentionally.

Take lots of photos of your property and the shared boundary wall and or fences and the front/rear gardens as proof of the before they started the works.

I know it's already started but its something.

Also get a few CCTV cameras up so when you're not at home you can see if anybody encroaches on your land.

If you have neighbours opposite your home and get on with them ask them to keep an eye open for things .

May seem over the top but but if things get nasty or accidents happen then it's easier to backup your story if you have CCTV footage.

Mswizzj

Brie said:

Does this fall into shared wall party territory?  If their work means your home is effected then surely it's something that they would have to agree with you prior to starting any work.  And it doesn't sound like that has happened.  Is it clear what they will be doing to your property, when, by whom and when it will be completed?  Frankly until all of that is 100% clear to you there is no way to make a decision about anything and a flat no is the only answer possible at this time.

I don’t think it does, and can’t seem to find anything in my deeds.

yes they’ve given me a verbal break down, via a phone call, and while they were reading the list to me, I was thinking..’So you’ve now assumed permission of access to my property ,as the scaffolding is already erected, which means works have started without informing me’.

I have a meeting with them this week at some point, but will be expressing that they’ve already began work (in my opinion) without my permission, as already said, the scaffolding is already erected.

apparently the inspector was unaware that they’d have to gain access so didn’t think it plausible to mention it to me..baring in mind that their wall and garden is about 5ft above my garden, so unless they have super long drill bits and rendering tools OR EXTENDO ARMS, then they’re going to have to access my garden to render the bottom part of their wall. 

The mind boggles.

Mswizzj

born_again said:

Mswizzj said:

Hi, I’m wondering if someone could give me some advice.

I've recently had a bit of an issue, where a neighbours property, which is owned by a housing association has erected scaffold, which is overhanging our property’s airspace by about 2 metres (no big deal), but they never asked permission, nor informed us of this) and the first I knew was impact drivers and clanging of scaffold poles waking me up.

I've asked the housing association why I wasn’t informed prior to this, and also asked what work they’re carrying out - I own my house for any consultation, and my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

my concerns now are, that I’ve been told that the works being done to said property are extensive and long term (3-4 months), baring in mind I’m currently undergoing a garden renovation myself - this will make sense shortly.

the works being done include cladding and rendering, going back to the fact that my neighbours wall is within our garden, I’ve had to make them aware that if they’re rendering and doing any sort of external wall work, that they’ll have to gain access through my property and garden, to do so.

they never informed me of this, and are looking to begin next week, in turn, this has now knocked back my garden project, understandably I can deny access and be awkward, which I’m in two minds on doing, as they haven’t given me any notice of this work at all.

my question is, where do I stand with this? , as the properties are semi detached, meaning when they hack off the external wall in my garden of their house, they’ll have no choice but to hack off part of my property’s wall too.

Just after some advice really as I’m a shift worker and can’t be there to allow access all the time, and frankly, I don’t want any tom , Pete and harry or Lucy… in my garden with items I own, while I’m not there, so things could get awkward unintentionally.

How did that happen?

It was erected while me and my partner were at work, again, without any mention or inform at all.

Mswizzj

Boohoo said:

Mswizzj said:

Hi, I’m wondering if someone could give me some advice.

I've recently had a bit of an issue, where a neighbours property, which is owned by a housing association has erected scaffold, which is overhanging our property’s airspace by about 2 metres (no big deal), but they never asked permission, nor informed us of this) and the first I knew was impact drivers and clanging of scaffold poles waking me up.

I've asked the housing association why I wasn’t informed prior to this, and also asked what work they’re carrying out - I own my house for any consultation, and my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

my concerns now are, that I’ve been told that the works being done to said property are extensive and long term (3-4 months), baring in mind I’m currently undergoing a garden renovation myself - this will make sense shortly.

the works being done include cladding and rendering, going back to the fact that my neighbours wall is within our garden, I’ve had to make them aware that if they’re rendering and doing any sort of external wall work, that they’ll have to gain access through my property and garden, to do so.

they never informed me of this, and are looking to begin next week, in turn, this has now knocked back my garden project, understandably I can deny access and be awkward, which I’m in two minds on doing, as they haven’t given me any notice of this work at all.

my question is, where do I stand with this? , as the properties are semi detached, meaning when they hack off the external wall in my garden of their house, they’ll have no choice but to hack off part of my property’s wall too.

Just after some advice really as I’m a shift worker and can’t be there to allow access all the time, and frankly, I don’t want any tom , Pete and harry or Lucy… in my garden with items I own, while I’m not there, so things could get awkward unintentionally.

Take lots of photos of your property and the shared boundary wall and or fences and the front/rear gardens as proof of the before they started the works.

I know it's already started but its something.

Also get a few CCTV cameras up so when you're not at home you can see if anybody encroaches on your land.

If you have neighbours opposite your home and get on with them ask them to keep an eye open for things .

May seem over the top but but if things get nasty or accidents happen then it's easier to backup your story if you have CCTV footage.

I think I’ll have to be over the top in honesty, I have multiple items within secure sheds and boxes, but that’s not the point, as the saying goes ‘if they want it they’ll have it’.

As you say, regarding photos, it’s definitely something I’ll be doing, I just feel uncomfortable having people I’ve never once spoken to having free will of my driveway, side access and garden.

redped

Mswizzj said:

my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

Mswizzj said:

their wall and garden is about 5ft above my garden

Can you add some photos here, as I'm struggling to understand the above two sentences - is it "into" or "above"?

Mswizzj

redped said:

Mswizzj said:

my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

Mswizzj said:

their wall and garden is about 5ft above my garden

Can you add some photos here, as I'm struggling to understand the above two sentences - is it "into" or "above"?

It’s over our boundary wall, but about 8ft off the ground, so both😂

Boohoo

izzj said:

redped said:

Mswizzj said:

my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

Mswizzj said:

their wall and garden is about 5ft above my garden

Can you add some photos here, as I'm struggling to understand the above two sentences - is it "into" or "above"?

It’s over our boundary wall, but about 8ft off the ground, so both😂

How does a wall stay up if it's not supported under neath and "hanging in the air"

That's why photos are needed to explain it more.

Mswizzj

Boohoo said:

izzj said:

redped said:

Mswizzj said:

my neighbours external wall comes into our garden by about 5foot, again, no big deal.

Mswizzj said:

their wall and garden is about 5ft above my garden

Can you add some photos here, as I'm struggling to understand the above two sentences - is it "into" or "above"?

It’s over our boundary wall, but about 8ft off the ground, so both😂

How does a wall stay up if it's not supported under neath and "hanging in the air"

That's why photos are needed to explain it more.

Behold my masterpiece.

Hoping this gives an indication of what I mean, I'll get some real photo's tomorrow when its lighter, but I think this can break it down a bit.