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  • Emmia
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    edited Today at 8:32AM
    Eldi_Dos said:
    QrizB said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Emmia said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad advice.
    This is how we use it. 

    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?

    Different regulations apply for kitchens and bathrooms.
    But the most obvious answer is most bathrooms do not have a electric socket, I know I have never seen one.
    I've sent lots of bathrooms with electrical sockets. But you don't need a socket in the room.
    You've not actually answered Emma's question, though.
    Emmia asked:
    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?
    Can you elaborate on the problem you've spotted, and explain why you believe that:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad ad
    Quite a common thread on DIY board is about high humidity levels in bathrooms and how to mitigate it.

    Most people when they come out the bath or shower are dripping wet, luckily I do not see much of that in our kitchen.
    You haven't answered my question.

    I use my dehumidifier in a bathroom which is generally not used for bathing and showering, and no bathing or showering happens when the dehumidifier is in use.

    The only wet/damp things in that room are clothes. (The bathroom is fundamentally not big enough to allow anyone to use it when there's laundry and a dehumidifier in there).

    I run an extension lead into the room and plug the dehumidifier in to that.

    Can you explain please how my arrangement is more dangerous than drying my clothes with a dehumidifier in any other room of the house.
  • Swipe
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    Eldi_Dos said:

    With a installation possible more than half a century old might be time to bring up to modern standards.
    Then I'd have nowhere to plug in my radio or dehumidifier  :wink:
  • Eldi_Dos
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    masonic said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    QrizB said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Emmia said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad advice.
    This is how we use it. 

    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?

    Different regulations apply for kitchens and bathrooms.
    But the most obvious answer is most bathrooms do not have a electric socket, I know I have never seen one.
    I've sent lots of bathrooms with electrical sockets. But you don't need a socket in the room.
    You've not actually answered Emma's question, though.
    Emmia asked:
    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?
    Can you elaborate on the problem you've spotted, and explain why you believe that:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad ad
    Quite a common thread on DIY board is about high humidity levels in bathrooms and how to mitigate it.

    Most people when they come out the bath or shower are dripping wet, luckily I do not see much of that in our kitchen.
    I think we can agree it is unwise to be trailing any powered extension leads into the bathroom while bathing.
    Not only while bathing but at anytime,must say I am quite surprised that on a energy board in the year 2025 that there are so many posters who think it is acceptable.

    And some of them must have strong bladders if they can guarantee not to use the bathroom for the purpose it is intended for overnight.
  • Eldi_Dos
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    masonic said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Swipe said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Emmia said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad advice.
    This is how we use it. 

    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?

    Different regulations apply for kitchens and bathrooms.

    But the most obvious answer is most bathrooms do not have a electric socket, I know I have never seen one.
    Mine has one right at the back of the airing cupboard from the 1970s  o:)
    More than three meters from a bath or sink?

    With a installation possible more than half a century old might be time to bring up to modern standards.
    FWIW I have an electrical socket and water fittings for my washing machine just 25 cm from my kitchen sink - directly underneath it in a small cupboard. Does water have different properties in the kitchen vs the bathroom?
    I think you would do better addressing that question to the bodies that set the regulations, and maybe think about getting it moved, not unknown for sinks to overflow.

    But its not unknown for  some to think these things only happen to other people.


  • Eldi_Dos
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    Swipe said:
    Eldi_Dos said:

    With a installation possible more than half a century old might be time to bring up to modern standards.
    Then I'd have nowhere to plug in my radio or dehumidifier  :wink:
    Or indeed your emergency services scanner, then you can keep updated on the latest casualty total for your area
  • Eldi_Dos
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    masonic said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    masonic said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    QrizB said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Emmia said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad advice.
    This is how we use it. 

    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?

    Different regulations apply for kitchens and bathrooms.
    But the most obvious answer is most bathrooms do not have a electric socket, I know I have never seen one.
    I've sent lots of bathrooms with electrical sockets. But you don't need a socket in the room.
    You've not actually answered Emma's question, though.
    Emmia asked:
    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?
    Can you elaborate on the problem you've spotted, and explain why you believe that:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad ad
    Quite a common thread on DIY board is about high humidity levels in bathrooms and how to mitigate it.

    Most people when they come out the bath or shower are dripping wet, luckily I do not see much of that in our kitchen.
    I think we can agree it is unwise to be trailing any powered extension leads into the bathroom while bathing.
    Not only while bathing but at anytime,must say I am quite surprised that on a energy board in the year 2025 that there are so many posters who think it is acceptable.

    And some of them must have strong bladders if they can guarantee not to use the bathroom for the purpose it is intended for overnight.
    Eldi_Dos said:
    masonic said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Swipe said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Emmia said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad advice.
    This is how we use it. 

    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?

    Different regulations apply for kitchens and bathrooms.

    But the most obvious answer is most bathrooms do not have a electric socket, I know I have never seen one.
    Mine has one right at the back of the airing cupboard from the 1970s  o:)
    More than three meters from a bath or sink?

    With a installation possible more than half a century old might be time to bring up to modern standards.
    FWIW I have an electrical socket and water fittings for my washing machine just 25 cm from my kitchen sink - directly underneath it in a small cupboard. Does water have different properties in the kitchen vs the bathroom?
    I think you would do better addressing that question to the bodies that set the regulations, and maybe think about getting it moved, not unknown for sinks to overflow.
    But its not unknown for  some to think these things only happen to other people.
    The risk is clearly higher in my kitchen scenario, than the dehumidifier in unused bathroom scenario. Even if one needs to sit on the throne with the dehumidifier running a few feet away. A bit of common sense needs to be exercised. This is what happens when people become rules lawyers and fail to exercise their grey matter.
    Could not agree more.
  • Emmia
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    Eldi_Dos said:
    masonic said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    QrizB said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Emmia said:
    Eldi_Dos said:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad advice.
    This is how we use it. 

    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?

    Different regulations apply for kitchens and bathrooms.
    But the most obvious answer is most bathrooms do not have a electric socket, I know I have never seen one.
    I've sent lots of bathrooms with electrical sockets. But you don't need a socket in the room.
    You've not actually answered Emma's question, though.
    Emmia asked:
    What's the safety risk versus a kitchen, if the bathroom is otherwise dry and not being used?
    Can you elaborate on the problem you've spotted, and explain why you believe that:
    Advising anyone to use a portable electrical appliance in a bathroom, especially one with loads a wet/ damp laundry is quite simply bad ad
    Quite a common thread on DIY board is about high humidity levels in bathrooms and how to mitigate it.

    Most people when they come out the bath or shower are dripping wet, luckily I do not see much of that in our kitchen.
    I think we can agree it is unwise to be trailing any powered extension leads into the bathroom while bathing.
    Not only while bathing but at anytime,must say I am quite surprised that on a energy board in the year 2025 that there are so many posters who think it is acceptable.

    And some of them must have strong bladders if they can guarantee not to use the bathroom for the purpose it is intended for overnight.
    Some of us have more than one "throne".
  • Scot_39
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    edited Today at 10:48AM
    Mary108 said:
    If I were you I would go with a compressor type, the Meaco ones are great. I have the older version of this one, it draws about 140w in laundry mode which is maximum extraction power.

    https://www.meaco.com/products/meacodry-abc-range-12l-dehumidifier?variant=34408024244383
    Thanks! Do you find that 12Litres is sufficeint?
    The tank capacity you need will depend on how long you want to run it for unattended,  I run mine for 7 hours overnight and 12 litres would not be sufficient.
    You need to distinguish between ratings- like 12l and 20l and their on board tank sizes.

    The low end Maecos 10-12l ratings typically have 2.5l tanks.  Thd 20l 4.8 or iirc one 6l.


    As in many homes that would last for many hours use 

    Take the 12l model 

    https://www.meaco.com/products/meacodryarete1-12l?variant=54961868276099

    Room conditions

    Maximum water withdrawal

    Wattage

    10 °C and 60 % RH

    1.95 litres per day

    130 watts

    20 °C and 60 % RH

    5.23 litres per day

    151 watts

    30 °C and 60 % RH

    8.21 litres per day

    186 watts

    10 °C and 80 % RH

    3.77 litres per day

    131 watts

    20 °C and 80 % RH

    8.33 litres per day

    157 watts

    30 °C and 80 % RH

    12.18 litres per day



    And as above ratings for more typical uk home conditions - likely in the 15-20c range for unoccupied / occupied spaces will still allow several hours unattended use - beford their tanks need emptying.

    2.5/5..23  x 24 = 11 hrs or 2.5/8.33 x24 = 7 hrs

    Obviously thd 20l will extract more and its bigger tank 4.8l / 6l etc will hold more etc.


    On a winter cottons  laundry day I find 2x2 hour timed sessions first and second days with my 10l rated - suspect 30c 80% as Maecos 12l model rating above (cheaper currys essentials range as was now Logik 10l - which is now a lower £109, ) is more than enough to significantly reduce condensation on windows and even my single glazed door glass panel.

    Without the dehumidier they and their wooden frames would need drying for 2-3  days.


    Of course you could use a drain hose - an option on many models - si please gravity fed - but for many thats overkill - and would limit where you could place model.  I for one wouldn't think about drilling a drain hole for mine.
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